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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jul 30, 2014 - 04:17pm PT
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"at the end of the day"
selfie
send, crush, dirt me
"let's do lunch"
foodie
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Jul 30, 2014 - 04:20pm PT
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locavore
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Jul 30, 2014 - 05:19pm PT
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Amazeballs
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Jul 30, 2014 - 05:46pm PT
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"work husband"
"it is what it is"
"I know! right?"
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Jul 30, 2014 - 05:48pm PT
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Dirt me = lower me
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Jul 30, 2014 - 06:23pm PT
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Mouse, way upthread, wisely listed, "ho man". I couldn't agree more.
I cringe when I hear that moronic ejaculation. It was moreover one of the ten words most had in vocabulary back in the Seventies.
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yanqui
climber
Balcarce, Argentina
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Jul 30, 2014 - 06:34pm PT
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Maybe this is not the time or place place to post this, but Iīve had a bit to drink and I want to make a defense of the word "send", at least in terms of what I understand the word to mean. I'm sorry to see so many having problems with this, but I think it is an extremely useful term for climbing. At least for those of us who work at climbing something that is hard at first, in order to succeed climbing it in a reasonable style after time. In Argentine climbing vernacular there is a word that works pretty well: "encadenar" but I can't think of anything in English (except "send") that works quite the same way. Maybe you could say something like: "climbed without falling or outside assistance after various tries" or even "free climbed the route in good style, given the context" but those are pretty damned awkward replacements for "send". In some cases, the phrase "free climbed" might work well, but it sounds stupid, for example, if you want to say that you succesfully climbed a boulder problem. Think how absurd it sounds to say: I "free climbed Midnight Lightning". I suppose you could just say "I climbed Midnight Lighting", but that might also mean you put a toprope on the boulder and managed to successfully toprope it after much hangdogging, which would be completely consistent with the phrase "I climbed it" but not with the phrase "I sent it".
Of course, you can also "send" a climb on toprope (you climb the problem on top rope without any assistance from the rope except for the sense of security it gives you in case you were to fall). I think we all know what that means. You can "send" a sport-climb: this could mean you "redpointed" it, putting draws in the bolts and climbing without assistance, or even "pinkpointed" it: clipping draws that were already in place. For sport climbing routes, this distinction always seemed a bit ridiculous to me, but if you "send" a sport climb it should mean one or the other (thus if you "send" a sport climb on top rope, it should include the phrase "on top rope" just to clarify the meaning).
You can even "send" trad climbs. In this case, if the climb involves gear placements then you should be placing them on lead. If the the route has long runouts, in order to get the send, you should be be doing these runouts clean, on lead. Of coure the word "sent" does not imply you did the problem "flash" or "onsight", only that you managed to climb the route, over time (perhaps after various attempts or with outside beta) in good style, given the context. The only time the phrase "send" becomes redundant and even absurd as a replacement for the word "climbed" is when you are free soloing. If you managed to climb something free solo then you obviously sent it, or you'd be dead.
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Jul 30, 2014 - 06:36pm PT
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^^^^
get it off your chest, brah
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yanqui
climber
Balcarce, Argentina
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Jul 30, 2014 - 06:45pm PT
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So how's the trad climbing in Minneapolis?
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Jul 30, 2014 - 06:46pm PT
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That's another one. "Trad"
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Gilroy
Social climber
Bolderado
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Jul 30, 2014 - 06:51pm PT
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Even worse, the transitive perversion, "tradding."
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WyoRockMan
climber
Flank of the Big Horns
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Jul 30, 2014 - 07:56pm PT
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Tradsters tradding up the gnar trad.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jul 30, 2014 - 08:01pm PT
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t least for those of us who work at climbing something that is hard at first, in order to succeed climbing it in a reasonable style after time. In Argentine climbing vernacular there is a word that works pretty well: "encadenar" but I can't think of anything in English (except "send") that works quite the same way.
Where I come from, the English phrase that describes your success after working hard on a route is "I climbed it."
You can toprope it, yo-yo it, fall on it, one-hang it... but when you finally get from bottom to top in "reasonable style" you can say "I climbed it."
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Jul 30, 2014 - 08:09pm PT
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adorbs
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Karen
Trad climber
So Cal urban sprawl Hell
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Jul 30, 2014 - 08:15pm PT
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"and everything like that"
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jul 30, 2014 - 09:06pm PT
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Ha!
Not so much
And such
Traddie
Gnar
TFPU
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yanqui
climber
Balcarce, Argentina
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Jul 31, 2014 - 06:28am PT
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Where I come from, the English phrase that describes your success after working hard on a route is "I climbed it."
You can toprope it, yo-yo it, fall on it, one-hang it... but when you finally get from bottom to top in "reasonable style" you can say "I climbed it."
OK, sure, but that leads to the strange state of affairs (which has happened to me so many times in my life) where I've gotten to the top of the route, without actually having climbed it! Well at least that gives me something to say to the tourists who ask how I got the rope up there. I can say "I sure as hell didn't climb up!"
I did Midnight Lightning.
Not me, not close, but I was only once in the area, 33 years ago (I'm sure now it was 1981 because it was shortly after Tobin Sorenson died and at one point I somehow got involved in some spontaneous party action in El Cap Meadows which also included Sorenson's brother). A little bit of history: while staying at Camp 4 the rumor started going around that Kauk was going to do ML. Next thing you know there was (what seemed to be) maybe a couple of hundred climbers crowding around Columbia Boulder and here comes Kauk who passes through the crowd and does (climbs, sends) the problem with ease. It kind of blows my mind to think that now-a-days these local, unknown, kids where I live are going out on the weekends and doing new problems on a regular basis, that are several grades harder. In Argentina, these boulders are "encadenados" when they are done.
Back to the topic at hand.
I have avoided writing TFPU on this site, like the plague, but I canīt say I'm sick of it. I suppose I am sick of people describing something that has absolutely nothing to do with homosexuality as "gay".
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Jul 31, 2014 - 06:31am PT
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Guns
Politics
Religion
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martygarrison
Trad climber
Washington DC
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Jul 31, 2014 - 07:45am PT
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Pivot
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Jul 31, 2014 - 08:19am PT
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Basically, you know, it's not a problem. Dude, come on, you know, its just gnarly to say that kinda sh#t. BITD I woulda whacked your badass.
Yer gonna die.
Susan
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