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monolith
climber
state of being
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Sketch, I've given clothes, shoes, old tent, and money to a few on the street.
How bout you, buddy?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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I don't mind the kneeling...It's the squiddly look alike that bothers me...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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I don’t even notice their races.
My real African friends don’t even consider what Kaepernick does as ‘football’.
He sure as hell ain’t gonna sell no shoes for Nike in Africa.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Big thumbs up for Nike showing some balls and doing the right thing.
But then Colin has the owners by the balls on the legal front, I'm expecting them to settle for something in the $30-50mil range.
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Slabby D
Trad climber
B'ham WA
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Better to burn/microwave your Nikes. Giving them to charity, where they’ll most likely end up in the hands of some poorer and possibly darker than you, is pretty much the American textbook definition of socialism.
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TradMike
Trad climber
Cincinnati, Ohio
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I understand what he is complaining about but I see no action, on his part, to make a difference. All I see is someone setting race relations back a couple decades by picking the most polarizing thing possible to piss off the most amount of people that could have been the ones to help him. When he goes out in the community to help blacks start up a business, mentor and help fix the myriad of problems out there, I will have respect for him. At this point, all I see is complaining and that never works. Being a white person who has pushed for the hiring of blacks at our company, he pisses me off. Everyone in America is guaranteed life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. You have to make it for yourself, it is not given by simply asking for it. You have to work hard to make it happen. Or you can just complain and get nowhere.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Wait a minute.... you guys are talking about someone who plays with a ball... for a living...
Once you get off the 24x7 "news" cycle, you'll all feel much better.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Wait a minute.... you guys are talking about someone who plays with a ball... for a living...
Amen! That’s EXACTLY what my friend from Sierra Leone said! She grew up living on casava and rice while watching her country destroy itself. She got here, got an education, has a seriously good job, and is bursting with pride at seeing her daughter accepted to medical school.
Kaepernick is a punk.
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DanaB
climber
CO
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I understand what he is complaining about but I see no action, on his part, to make a difference. All I see is someone setting race relations back a couple decades by picking the most polarizing thing possible to piss off the most amount of people that could have been the ones to help him.
Unbelievable.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Kap should know his place and be grateful. Race relations were going just fine.
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DanaB
climber
CO
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Colin signed and played under a generous NFL team contract when he made the choice to first sit, then later repeatedly kneeled during the Anthem.
As an employee of the corporation/team he is expected to follow certain rules and codes of conduct.
While employed representing both team and league he chose not to follow corporate protocol, paid the price and lost his job.
How long does any employee keep their job if they repeatedly violate company policy?
IMHO, not as long as Colin kept his.
He was in the twilight of his career and at the end of his contract with the 49ers.
The team and league fulfilled their end of the contract and owe him nothing other than the pension he is entitled to when he reaches the age of 55.
Yes, sir. I hear, I obey.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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kingtut
Kaepernick is a punk.
#whitemansplaining
Tut playing the race card.
What a surprise.
Kaepernick is still a punk.
What has been accomplished since he began his quest to raise awareness. Have race relations improved? How about relations between low income black communities and the police who serve them?
A lot of noise. Little change.
Kap should know his place and be grateful. Race relations were going just fine.
BS on both counts. Has he been effective in causing change?
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Sharpen up your sarcasm detector, Sketch.
Really Sketch?
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Kap was initially quietly sitting because he felt that the country wasn't living up to it's ideals of equality due to what he felt is unfair treatment of black people by police officers. He didn't publicize it, it was just a personal choice.
The media picked up on it and it became a big deal.
Nate Boyer an ex marine and team mate convinced Kap to kneel instead of sit because it showed respect while allowing him to make his point. Boyer championed his right of free speech and said that's what he fought for.
THAT is what this is about. You can disagree with it and say you wish he made his protest in another way. But you can't change the facts. To describe YOUR interpretation of why he did what he did and say he is trying to insult veterans or the country is cowardly and dishonest.
He has done a lot of other things to help black people, so saying he hasn't shows ignorance.
He is an employee and he does have to deal with the repercussions of his actions. But he sacrificed and did what he thought was right at the cost of his job.
Speaking poorly about him reflects more about you than him.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Good on Nike!
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atmourad
climber
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Been a lurker here for years. This is my first post. I can't freaking believe it is a reply on an OT thread rather than a climbing thread but so it goes...
Regarding this:
When he goes out in the community to help blacks start up a business, mentor and help fix the myriad of problems out there, I will have respect for him. At this point, all I see is complaining and that never works.
I just wanted to point out that Kap has donated $1M+ of his own cash to grassroots organizations that do the exact work you list, and more.
http://kaepernick7.com/million-dollar-pledge-recap/
Not only has he donated his own money but he has inspired other folks to match his donations to the various orgs - http://kaepernick7.com/million-dollar-pledge/
Additionally he has also inspired many "regular" folks to donate to those orgs what they can.
I am not sure if this is threshold enough for you to "respect him", but to say that all he is doing is complaining is demonstrably false.
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10b4me
Social climber
Lida Junction
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I am curious to know if Jody is as upset about Catholic priests f*#king little boys. I mean, as far as I know, Kaepernick has not killed any white folks or raped any white women.
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TradMike
Trad climber
Cincinnati, Ohio
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I understand what he is complaining about but I see no action, on his part, to make a difference. All I see is someone setting race relations back a couple decades by picking the most polarizing thing possible to piss off the most amount of people that could have been the ones to help him.
Unbelievable.
You don't punch someone in the face and then ask for their help. Do you realize how important the national anthem is to some people? Maybe not. There are better ways to unite people for a common cause and this is exactly how not to do it.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Hey,Dick Danger, Kapernick does believe in something,and he has sacrificed his career for it.
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