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Lorenzo
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Portland Oregon
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Sep 29, 2015 - 10:14pm PT
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WHO the fk on the currently elected conserv side EVER openly and publicly stated anything about going to WAR with Iran.. WHO! Names, Dates etc etc.
um, Linsey Graham, in his first foreign policy speech before the Atlantic Council think tank on July 8 (10:00 AM)
“I don’t mind Iran or any other nation having a nuclear power program for peaceful reasons,” he said. But if the current negotiations produce a deal that doesn’t include the ability for the U.S. to inspect Iran’s nuclear reactors “anytime, anywhere,” Graham would resort to “overwhelming” military force.
Full speech here:
http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/events/webcasts/sen-lindsey-graham-on-america-s-role-in-the-world
He also advocated going to war over Israel, Syria, ISIS, and Afghanistan in the speech.
Favorite quote" if you are war weary don't vote for me"
Point noted.
Sounds like war to me. It's more strongly worded than "police action" which got us through Korea and Vietnam.
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apogee
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Sep 29, 2015 - 10:17pm PT
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"WHO the fk on the currently elected conserv side EVER openly and publicly stated anything about going to WAR with Iran.. WHO! Names, Dates etc etc."
Seriously? You think the drum beating just came right out of the ass of Miley Cyrus?
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Gary
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Hell is empty and all the devils are here
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Sep 30, 2015 - 05:26am PT
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Hey Gary.... It's all "Parroting" what Obama has stated, over and over and...
Your question wasn't abut Obama. It was about conservatives. Obama is more of a moderate.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 30, 2015 - 09:15am PT
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Liar liar, pants of fire:
The Chief:
WHO the fk on the currently elected conserv side EVER openly and publicly stated anything about going to WAR with Iran.. WHO! Names, Dates etc etc.
Actually, The Chief, you wrote:
WHO the fk on the conserv side EVER openly and publicly stated anything about going to WAR with Iran.. WHO! Names, Dates etc etc. |
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The Chief
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Sep 30, 2015 - 09:24am PT
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Your question wasn't abut Obama. It was about conservatives. Obama is more of a moderate.
And the retort to all this "Conserves" out to"incite war" with Iran is, your side is NO different, Gary.
They ALL said basically the same thing. And have done so since day one. Even Hillary has stated repeatedly that she would in fact use military force "IF"....
Liar liar
And if Hillary makes it to the election, you KMAN will vote for her.
Wonderful.
EDIT:
Hillary Clinton today moved to secure her position as the most hawkish Democrat in the 2008 presidential race, saying she would consider the use of force to compel Iran to abandon its nuclear programme. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/oct/15/usa.hillaryclinton
Damn "War Inciter".....
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EdwardT
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Retired
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Sep 30, 2015 - 09:34am PT
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Boehner is gone. I can't wait to see who replaces him. It's gonna be awesome.
The devil you know...
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 30, 2015 - 09:42am PT
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And if Hillary makes it to the election, you KMAN will vote for her.
Actually, that depends upon who she is running against The Chief.
So far, from what I see in the field of GOP candidates, the choice is likely to be a no brainer.
Odd as it may seem, I liked a lot of what Ron Paul had to say. Outside of his crazy talk, there were nuggets that made great sense. But now he is focusing his efforts on retaining his Senate seat.
How about you, The Chief, you gonna vote for anybody the GOP throws up?
PS. I'm personally hoping the Donkey is not a Clinton.
PPS. Interesting that you dug up an article from Clinton's 2008 run. Got anything current?
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two-shoes
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Auberry, CA
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Sep 30, 2015 - 10:29am PT
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I'll second what Dingus says.
I'm hoping for Sanders to catch hold, but it takes money, and he's not taking money from corporate interests.
I'm really afraid that they will just conveniently have him snuffed. His aircraft falls out of the sky, you know.
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Ken M
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Los Angeles, Ca
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Sep 30, 2015 - 10:30am PT
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If you are waiting for Ron Paul to break out of the pack, you are going to be waiting a long, long time.
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The Chief
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Sep 30, 2015 - 10:42am PT
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How about you, The Chief, you gonna vote for anybody the GOP throws up?
Unlike most here, I will wait to see what comes to bear in a year when all this "nomination" campaigning bullshet is over, the two parties have their final nominees on the table, see what happens with the VA, what condition this planet in general is, prior to even thinking about who I "may" vote for.
I am praying that someone, on either side of isle with real true good "Strong Willed" values and "realistic" goals, comes out of the woodwork, takes hold and wins the nomination.
Cus if this is the Best that this nation has to offer to be the next POTUS, regardless the party, we are all in a real world of shet.
Sanders is weak. Very Weak. And ruthless Lions such as Putin will eat his scrawny "Socialist" ass up and leave us all in a big world of hurt.
Takes Putin exactly 10 days to quietly strategically implement what it took Obama 10 months against ISIS. Go figure.
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apogee
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Sep 30, 2015 - 10:52am PT
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"Go figure."
Go figure, indeed. Like, figure in the vast differences in political structure between the two countries.
Maybe it would be better if our system was a little more dictatorial?
And why the hell would you ballcup Putin over our own political system?
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The Chief
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Sep 30, 2015 - 11:10am PT
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Ballcup?
Neit.
Just saying how this current POTUS, and those that support him and his philosophies, do not stand a chance against the likes of ex career KGB operator that knows far more about us as a nation than most in this nation know about their own country and seriously does not give a flying fk about what the world thinks of him and what he does. And has the strategic ability to do so without anyone to stop his ass.
So much for all them economic sanctions that were suppose to cripple, Putin.
EDIT:
One thing that Putin has going for him that we here in the US completely lost... The Motherland mentality. He doesn't depend on anyone else for anything to do what he does and will do.
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apogee
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Sep 30, 2015 - 11:12am PT
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Well, that difference in political dynamics is tough to deal with, but being on the high road usually is.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 30, 2015 - 11:13am PT
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If you are waiting for Ron Paul to break out of the pack, you are going to be waiting a long, long time.
D'Oh!
Ken, your Endorsement pages doesn't show any endorsements for either Sanders or Trump. I'd think they would at least show the candidates, with Zero if that is the case.
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The Chief
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Sep 30, 2015 - 11:15am PT
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Political dynamics...
Don't mean jackshet if you don't have the will to back up your bullshet talk... ie, Obama.
Cus he aint gonna do jackshet to Putin. Nothing. Putin basically told Obama to fk off yesterday, in DC, in front of the entire nation. His actions today in Syria are the first of that, "Fuk You, Obama"!
Ukraine is next, very very soon. As will be Georgia and ... Putin gave away his plans this past Sunday on 60 Mins.
The traditional blood that runs in Putin's veins are centuries older than Werner's piss.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 30, 2015 - 11:18am PT
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Unlike most here, ...
Amazing you know what "most"" here think, The Chief. With such powers of perception you should play the stock market and make Million$.
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The Chief
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Sep 30, 2015 - 11:23am PT
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Centuries old Traditional strategic mindset and "Wallstreet" have nothing in one bit common, Kman.
That is why Obama and you and many here are going to be watching shet go down in the very near future with your jaws wide open and mentally saying out loud...
How can that dude do that? (Putin)
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apogee
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Sep 30, 2015 - 12:09pm PT
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You are sooooo ironic, TGT. Keep up the brilliant work!
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