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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Aug 27, 2013 - 01:18pm PT
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ok, this is some funny sh#t. it is remarkable how wildly ignorant californians, including journalists, are of the basic physical geography of their home region. i have plenty of sympathy for the complaint here.
http://www.therimfire.com/2013/08/24/truth-rim-fire.html
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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Aug 27, 2013 - 02:11pm PT
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I'll believe my own eyes mostly.
Thermal map shows the fire is into that over grown forest close to the Hwy 120 Yosemite entrance station? Did it jump the dozer lines?
Looks like if it does cross Hwy 120 there will easily follow
the abundantly fueled Crane Creek valley eastward up to the Yosemite Institute at Crane Flat. The Crane Flat Helibase lookout cam is back online.
Brutal!
http://www.mtdiablocam.com/sierralookouts.htm
There has been an evacuation advisory issued from Mi-Wok to Pinecrest along the Highway 108 corridor. This advisory has been issued by the Tuolumne County Sheriff's Office.
http://cdfdata.fire.ca.gov/incidents/incidents_details_info?incident_id=889
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Aug 27, 2013 - 02:13pm PT
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hey there say, all... just checking in to see how things are going...
and adding a thank you to all the folks sharing info here...
i did not know what was going on, in these crucial areas, 'til
i kept checking here at your thread, khanom...
prayers, still...
thank you for all that are helping here...
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John M
climber
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Aug 27, 2013 - 02:28pm PT
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Do they think we are too stupid to sift fact from conjecture?
I'm sure that wasn't pointed at you Eric, but there are plenty of people who aren't able to sift fact from conjecture. Enough that it does cause difficulties. If the phone lines get jammed and someone who has a genuine need to know can't get through, then that can be bad. I have been amazed at the number of phone calls that I have gotten from people who were worried that Wawona would burn. Most of these were older people and they aren't stupid, just misinformed by the media and they mostly aren't very computer literate.
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Michelle
Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
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Aug 27, 2013 - 02:34pm PT
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Is this a social media site? Lol
But seriously, I guess I just know where to look.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Aug 27, 2013 - 04:27pm PT
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1300 PDT today.
The dark red squares are fire activity within the last 6 hours. In other words, the new spots.
some hot spots
NW across Clavey River towards 108
In the Tuolumne canyon below Hetch Hetchy
South around Big Oak Flat entrance, Crocker Ridge and Pilot Ridge
Inexorably east towards White Wolf.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Aug 27, 2013 - 04:32pm PT
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Most of these were older people and they aren't stupid, just misinformed by the media and they mostly aren't very computer literate.
yeah, and they weren't victims of social media because they don't know what they are much less how to use them.
the guardian can sukit
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Aug 27, 2013 - 05:05pm PT
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Thanks Mr K, that's the news i was hearing behind the scenes...
HOOT!!!!.....If Lauren was at the Inn right now, she would be cooking the fire crews delicious meals... and fabulous desserts too.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Aug 27, 2013 - 05:11pm PT
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Anyone know more about the situation there?
duckwall seems to be holding, which is the really big news of the last 24 hrs. they seem to have got dozer lines/paint around the major spots above the line as per what i could get off the scanner.
and they've had another 24hrs now for dozers and backburn. if conditions hold, i'm now more optimistic that it holds. it'd also allow free some resources to cap the clavey drainage. it's gonna make a big run up the clavey and assoc ridgeline, and they went door-to-door in miwuk telling folks to be ready.
gonna need a lot of air support-- and they've apparently activated castle air base, which may increase the number of possible drops.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Aug 27, 2013 - 06:18pm PT
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hey there say, khanom... thanks for sharing!!!!
say, nita, wow, is this sooooooooo happy news, or what, >:D<
still hoping and praying... wow, if prayers and hopes SOUNDED like
cheerleaders cry-outs, i wonderrrrrrrrr WHAT we must sound like, :)
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Aug 27, 2013 - 07:23pm PT
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Geranimo Hotshots are on the way, this thing will be out in 3 days,
some badass mofos right here,
Apache, the most blood thirsty axe throwin tribe in the US.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 27, 2013 - 07:26pm PT
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I heard it on YeeHaw just now...is it true? Can I rely on this?This is happy news, that the Inn is saved. I can call it karma, but it is hard work on the part of firefighters.
As to the media and coverage, it's all about the sources and most reporters sent down to cover the fire haven't any worth beans.
The fact that the leak came through just means the news is like gold, it's where you find it.
Casual observation, lax editing, no sources on the local level. what do you expect from a National Medium? Miracles?
I blame it on our need to know now, right now. They try to cater to that need and fall flat most times.
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wstmrnclmr
Trad climber
Bolinas, CA
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Aug 27, 2013 - 07:46pm PT
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Echoing what Khanom said. Park source friend says 120 closure from Crane flat coming.
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Aug 27, 2013 - 07:54pm PT
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this map is money Yep - thanks for sharing.
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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Aug 27, 2013 - 07:57pm PT
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Great news on the Inn.
Now to get them ready for anything. Mouse recall the sand pit down at the entrance. Now to give them the chemistry which I do not need [lasts for ever], all they would need to rent or get would be a used shotcrete/gunite hose/gun. Sand would need to be sized out.
Happy on the news about it.
They did a or three burns up the hill yesterday, one got away but now have it under control. The smoke this morning was like have 30 guys smoking cigars in a 10x10 enclosure no windows or air. They had us on evacuation for a few seconds. Smoke from the south.
Hoping that weather or moisture from the East comes by.
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command error
Trad climber
Colorado
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Aug 27, 2013 - 08:32pm PT
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Say it ain't so? KCBS radio on the drive home just now.
Unbelievable.
"Fire fighting helicopters forbidden to dip into Hetch Hetchy water
by order of San Francisco water managers."
Are all surface waters off limits to fire fighting efforts in Yosemite?
Or just HH?
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Aug 27, 2013 - 08:42pm PT
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MODIS at 1730 (10 minutes ago)
Spotting ahead of the Eastern front towards both White Wolf and Tioga Rd (120) and towards(not near) Twain Harte.
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Strider
Trad climber
ಠ_ಠ
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Aug 27, 2013 - 08:44pm PT
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Drove into the Evergreen Lodge via Hwy 120 & Evergreen rd. with an escort yesterday.
The overall news is good. Evergreen Lodge, Camp Mather, Dimond O and Peach Growers have all so far made it through unscathed. Camp Tawonga experienced 1 structure loss, cabin 12 on the edge of camp.
The crews were actively fighting the fire on Hwy 120 about 1.5 miles East of Evergreen rd. there was also active fire fighting on Evergreen rd. on the last mile before you reach the Ackerson Meadows curve. Ackerson Meadow is untouched but Bald Mountain behind it was being consumed.
When you get to the Erikson Ranch buildings, they are untouched but it looks like they did a backburn in the meadow to prevent a runup to the buildings. Bear mountain, South of the Erikson ranch was untouched. Passing Peach Growers and Dimond O, they are untouched on the left/west side of the rd but the right/east side was burned.
The sad news of the day was that the last mile before the Evergreen was torched. Trees were black sticks and the ground was only ash. But right before you get to the Lodge you re-enter virgin forest and find the Lodge untouched. Past the Lodge down to Camp Mather is also an oasis.
neebee- I saw Matt going into his property with an escort. He was well and in good spirits despite the circumstances. Unfortunately I only got about 20 seconds to chat before his caravan moved on.
Aspendoug- the next few days will be the test for Aspen Valley. I wish I had better news but you are up next in the fires path. But the goods news was that I saw a flatbed trailer and a dozer getting parked on Aspen Valley road when I was leaving. Fire fighter priority is structure defense so they will give it their all. If you are half as lucky as the Evergreen then you should come through fine. Good luck brother.
The drive on 120 from Feretti to evergreen rd was not as bad as I expected. There is a lot of damage but it is not a moonscape and the forest is still largely there. Only time will tell if the trees survive this but if they do then much will be the same I suspect.
I have Gopro video of the drive in and out as well as almost 100 pictures. I am in a remote place on Hwy 4 and no computer to help post pictures. Just my little iPhone. But if I can figure it put I will post pictures later.
Good luck to everyone still in the path of the fire.
-n
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Aug 27, 2013 - 08:47pm PT
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Strider
great report from "boots on the ground"
Inciweb on tomorrow's Tioga Rd closure, tomorrow noon.
A portion of the Tioga Road, from Crane Flat to White Wolf, will be temporarily closed to all vehicular traffic beginning tomorrow, Wednesday, August 28, 2013, at 12:00 noon. The closure is necessary for firefighters to perform fire suppression activities along the road. This portion of the road is anticipated to be closed at least through Labor Day Weekend. The park will issue an update as conditions allow for the reopening of the road.
“The work that will be performed over the next few days is instrumental in suppressing the Rim Fire within Yosemite. The safety of the firefighters working along the road is our paramount concern,” stated park Superintendent Don Neubacher.
Tamarack Flat and Yosemite Creek Campgrounds, both located along the Tioga Road within the closure, will remain closed during the fire suppression efforts. White Wolf Campground and White Wolf Lodge will remain closed. The Tioga Road will remain open east of White Wolf to the Tioga Pass Entrance. The Porcupine Flat Campground, the Tuolumne Meadows Campground, and all visitor services within Tuolumne Meadows will remain open.
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