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Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Dec 15, 2012 - 12:07pm PT
RON


DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Dec 15, 2012 - 12:09pm PT
Every time this happens I wonder what the outcome would be if it happened at a board meeting of NRA or gun manufacturing execs. Or to the schools their kids attend.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Dec 15, 2012 - 12:17pm PT
I also truly beleive that no one outside of Law Enforcement/Military and the likes SHOULDN'T be allowed to own Assault style weapons...

Define your terms please.

Are spoons at the prison cafeteria "assault spoons"?
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Dec 15, 2012 - 12:18pm PT
Yes they did what they were designed and intended to do.
You know I am pretty sure I could kill with a vacuum cleaner but that isn't what it was designed and intended for. Don't drool crocodile tears of lament for the slaughtered children while simultaneously demanding your and by extension everyone's inalienable right to bear assault weapons.


Oh yes Ron by all means ban spoons.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Dec 15, 2012 - 12:18pm PT
They are coming for your guns boys. Better find a new hobbie maybe darts would be good
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Dec 15, 2012 - 12:21pm PT
Don't drool crocodile tears of lament for the slaughtered children while simultaneously demanding your and by extension everyone's inalienable right to bear assault weapons.


philo, you are showing a very ugly side of yourself.
What do you really know of my mind?




(and I've actually never sought to assault a bear)
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Dec 15, 2012 - 12:24pm PT
^^^ LOL ^^^



Well I am out for now time to go stock up on GRRRRnades.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Dec 15, 2012 - 12:24pm PT
Well I think I know what you mean locker, but why are you against assault "style" weapons?

Are they too efficient, accurate, rugged and effective?

Do they take the "sport" out of self-defense?
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Dec 15, 2012 - 12:24pm PT
My pappy grew up on a farm and hunted all his life while owning several hunting rifles..He also served in the air force with exposure to deadly small arms and automatic weapons...He never owned a hand gun and always warmed us kids about the dangerous nature of them...Now handguns have become a phalic symbol for every physically and mentally challenged American male....pack one under the front seat of your monster truck and all those nagging self doubts will disappear.. .Handguns are now idolized along as is the violence that goes with them...They have become toys and status symbols for the macho and rarely used in self-defense...When George Deukmejian was governor , he advised Californians to arm themselves as the police could no longer protect them...It's really tragic that these innocent kids and their parents have to pay the price for the Ted Nugent mentality that has been given so much attention in this sick society...
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Dec 15, 2012 - 12:28pm PT
But riot guns are OK, locker?
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Dec 15, 2012 - 12:30pm PT
Should I do a Travis Bickle, "You talkin' ta me?"
What foolishness, Donald Thompson had it right.




locker,

10-20" barrels, 5 (or more) shots

legal in most states fer sure.
Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Dec 15, 2012 - 12:35pm PT
Back in the mid-1970s California had about 15,000 assault rifles on the streets.

The government wanted to limit the number of assault rifles in California. So the state legislature passed a bill to ban the sale of all assault rifles, but any existing assault rifles could be kept.

During the short debate over the bill before it was passed, another 50,000 assault rifles were sold in California.

Glad to see that the measure worked so well.

There is no easy solution, is there?
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Dec 15, 2012 - 12:36pm PT
Well locker, I didn't specify pump or semi-auto.
Don't think it matters much, both have advantages and disadvantages.
tooth

Trad climber
B.C.
Dec 15, 2012 - 12:40pm PT
Ron, Locker, etc.

You talk about ideals like making guns harder to purchase, or ASSult weapons impossible to buy.


Great ideals, we have some of those rules in Canada.




HOWEVER,


this whole scenario could have played out in Canada with the same weapons stolen from the same homes where they were legally owned.






Everyone seems to ignore the facts of what happened - this COULD have happened in a number of other countries where gun violence is almost non-existant.




It truly isn't about the types of guns or your gun laws. This whole thing wouldn't have happened if there weren't guns, but it also wouldn't have happened if there weren't schools.





It is about your society as a whole, the types of guns or laws for guns will not change how your minds develop.

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Dec 15, 2012 - 12:42pm PT
This is boring and pointless.

The rain is letting off. Time to stop at the range with a box fed semi-auto high power rifle and practice lighting up ass-clowns.

Ben Franklin had wise words on security and freedom.
I intend to endeavor to be deserving.
tooth

Trad climber
B.C.
Dec 15, 2012 - 12:44pm PT
jghedge,


what you say may, in fact, be true. What would solve a lot of trouble in the US is removing every single gun from everone except for the 'prison guards' or TSA in your society.


From where you are in history, that would be the only choice. You would turn into a prision society and have to loose a lot of your freedoms. I'm sure, for a variety of reasons, that this will happen as your government gets more in line with the UN and continues to take power from the individual states, move it up to the federal level, and then up to the UN level.



And as this happens, you will notice that society continues to degrade, and problems like this will still happen, just not with the same methods. Then you will wonder why these things happened, once it is too late to do anything about it.



ramonjuan

climber
Dec 15, 2012 - 12:44pm PT
Throw his body out with the trash. No decent burial for these selfish cowards. What a waste.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 15, 2012 - 12:45pm PT
Parents need to be more aware of what's going on in their kids lives.

Peers need to be less hesitant to talk about behavior that troubles them.

Guns need to be less accessible to said individuals.


The issues are BOTH mental health and gun control, as these events intrinsically tie them together.
tooth

Trad climber
B.C.
Dec 15, 2012 - 12:49pm PT
If the issue is gun control, Canada is wayyyy to lax. 9mm and .223? They don't make much smaller than that! Then only pellets and BB's should be legal?


Let's look at reality here folks!






If he had shown up with 50 cal or something, you would have more of a logical point.


These guns were one step up from a air gun though.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Dec 15, 2012 - 12:53pm PT
Huckabee is a effing moron. God needs an invitation?
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