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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Gary writes:
"The way Florida courts have been interpreting this law, you could shoot Tyson."
I'm not so sure, Gary. I see a clear distinction between standing your ground, and starting some sh#t. Based on how things escalated, and how things turned out, a reasonable person would have to say Zimmerman was the one starting some sh#t.
I'd bet the "stand your ground" law doesn't even apply here. At least I hope it doesn't. The guy who wrote the law thinks it doesn't apply here.
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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dr.f: do you believe the media or are you going to wait until the law decides?
manzanita man, pot.. kettle...
edit: manzanita man, my statement has nothing to do with what you wrote below...
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People's true colors are certainly here for all to read..
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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cultural identity
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WBraun
climber
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I don't see anybody calling you names?
You weak ass shrub .....
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Anonymous Racist, I mean Malodorus Vegetation, I mean Manzanita man wrote:
im not a racist but i do hate stupid people. its just that the blacks do
stupid sh#t so often, it makes it look like racism.
LOL.
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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The fet, I wish i would of copied that post...before it was edited...
edit: and where in the sam hill are the pictures from the Bill Graham memorial??
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Gary
climber
"My god - it's full of stars!"
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manzanita man, when on the 911 recording, Zimmerman called Martin a "f*#king coon", in your opinion, did that perhaps lead some to the conclusion that there might be racial component to this incident?
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Nita, Pics are prints and 35mm negatives in our "projects" closet, along with 30 years of pre-digital photos that I haven't seen in 10+ years. I don't have a scanner at home. I'll check at work and see if I can do a color scan there. Thanks for the reminder :-)
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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manzanita man, when on the 911 recording, Zimmerman called Martin a "f*#king coon"
As I understand it, that's a contention, not a fact.
As a weird aspect to all of this, who actually uses "coon" as a racial epithet these days (no points awarded for saying "Zimmerman")?
I'd be interested in hearing whether anyone who knows him ever heard him use that word or one of a similar vintage.
I suppose every group has its own slang, but "coon" (in reference to black people, not the little animal) doesn't sound like a word that would come out of the mouth of anyone under about 50, even if they are racist. Maybe the slang is different in different places, I don't know.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Blahblah, I actually know several people - many younger than I - who use that derogatory term. Clearly it was learned from older family members and tolerated in the communities in which they live.
Of course that proves nothing about Zimmerman, but I know youngins' to use such language. :/
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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It isn't the killing of a black guy that's news.
It's that everyone knows who shot an unarmed guy and he doesn't even get arrested for it. "
That's news and different than the 4000 other murders
Peace
Karl
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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As a weird aspect to all of this, who actually uses "coon" as a racial epithet these days
Have you ever lived, or spent time in the deep south? As someone who is a descendant of north Georgia poor white trash, redneck racist stock on one side (my grandfather proudly displayed his KKK belt buckle and Lester Maddox signed "ni**er knocker" miniature axe handle in his doublewide), let me assure you that "coon" is still prominently in the lexicon.
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Have you ever lived, or spent time in the deep south? As someone who is a descendant of north Georgia poor white trash, redneck racist stock on one side (my grandfather proudly displayed his KKK belt buckle and Lester Maddox signed "ni**er knocker" miniature axe handle in his doublewide), let me assure you that "coon" is still prominently in the lexicon.
ha...Bruce K.. beat me to the repost.
ot... ..
Elcapinyoazz, i've hung with you at the facelift, and know you are a cool person/ good peeps..... Wondering how you and your grandfather... are so very different?
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Not just the grandfather, almost everyone on that side of the family including my birth father. Racial slurs were, and are, regularly used in those households.
Other side of the family was very different, parents divorced when I was a toddler and I lived with the sane side...still in GA though.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
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Cajuns in LA are still called "coonasses" to this day.
AND?
No {Coonass, Vietnamese, Neighborhood Watcher} ever called me a n*gger?
EDIT:
Come to think of it, I did meet some in Aspen and they did refer to themselves as coonasses though they used the Arcadian pronunciation.
I just checked at Arcadian-Cajun.com and there is no mention of coonasses on that site.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Are there that many cajuns in Los Angeles?
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Elcap and I have similar families apparently. :/
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Just curious as this thread is titled stand your ground law, what would you think of this scenario?
An elderly black woman who carries a firearm with her for self protection. A white thug attacks her, and instead of hobbling off to the old folks home, she draws her gun and fires, killing the thug.
Is the law on it's face bad? Do you think she should have no legal backing to defend herself as she couldn't apply the castle doctrine? I'm thinking with Florida being one of the retirment capitals in our country, perhaps this was more the intent of the law.
Back to Trayvon, the problem is those with racial and antigun agendas have jumped on this case, and have made the job of the police to properly investigate the case, as well as the DA to prosecute it impartially extremely difficult.
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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^ So right...
This is only hot news because if a political Agenda...
Race card can easily be played.
Gun card can easily be played.
Just way too much going on for the media to not get all d*ck hungry for.
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