Discussion Topic |
|
This thread has been locked |
crankster
Trad climber
|
|
Obumbly done stepped in it big time,, and to think Nixon got ousted over a HELL OF A LOT LESS than obumbly has done even before this latest debacle. Kind of makes one wonder what happened to the American people and its politicians. But none the less Obama should be IMPEACHED tomorrow.
Ron, you should seek a dr to have a totally lobotomy tomorrow. You are dumber than a fence post. Your vile, wretched posts get worse by the minute. You were born without a brain. Instead, you have a sponge. It soaks up anything stupid and then repeats it. You should seek asylum on another planet.
|
|
rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
|
|
He's using the same kind of glue that Locker uses...? That's a gud thing...
|
|
Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
|
|
Derik,, bergdahl had no issue with "leaving behind" his own companys men now did he...And if he was so concerned over Afghannys, then why would he accept being traded for those that have murdered thousands of said people? Try and justify letting free - and thats what they will be,,mass murderers over one deserter. One who wanted to renounce his citizenship here. Seems that code of ethics does not apply in this case. His own companys men say the very same to the man....
Ah, and you have no issue with not giving an American a trial before judgement.
Glad you are so much smarter than Stanley McCrystal. What was your rank?
|
|
crankster
Trad climber
|
|
Back on topic after the brief interruption from the militia member and 9/11 truther duo..
Brooks has it right:
Israel once traded 1,027 Palestinian prisoners to get back one of their own. Another time they traded 1,150 prisoners to get back three of their own. They did it because of a deep awareness that national cohesion is essential to national survival. They did it because Israeli parents share a common emotional bond; the imprisonment of one of their children touches them all. In polarized countries, especially, you have to take care of your own. If you don’t, the corrosive effects will be cumulative
It doesn’t matter either that the United States government ended up dealing with terrorists. In the first place, the Taliban is not a terrorist organization the way Al Qaeda is. America has always tried to reach a negotiated arrangement with the Taliban, and this agreement may be a piece of that. In the second place, this is the dirty world we live in. Sometimes national leaders are called upon to take the sins of the situation upon themselves for the good of the country, to deal with the hateful and compromise with the loathsome. That’s their form of sacrifice and service.
So President Obama made the right call. If he is to be faulted, it would be first for turning the release into an Oprah-esque photo-op, a political stunt filled with inaccurate rhetoric and unworthy grandstanding. It would next be for his administration’s astonishing tone-deafness about how this swap would be received.
|
|
WBraun
climber
|
|
It's self evident that you are a very sick man with very low self esteem.
You need other people like Ron to make you feel soooo much better.
You're sick and need help that money can't buy .......
|
|
Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
|
|
Why is a deserter worth five terrorists?
And why is he not in the brig? The fact that he is not, as far as I know
(and I admit to not following this very closely), seems to be in violation
of the UCMJ, not that I am an expert on that.
Uhhh...he is in a hospital. That is where you take care of people with significant medical problems, Reilly.
I know you want to dispense with a trial, testimony, evidence, etc. But even you should agree that our service people deserve to have their severe medical issues treated in hospitals, eh?
|
|
Ward Trotter
Trad climber
|
|
Who in the f*#k is Ward Trotter?
Well that was f*#king stupid
Wow the "F" word.
|
|
Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
|
|
No it isn't. It was a PR move that has gone wrong. If I were still in
the Navy getting this guy back would not make me feel warm and fuzzy.
He went willingly so he isn't one of us any more. Now that he is back
I would feel very indignant if he were not prosecuted to the fullest intent
of the UCMJ.
If you were still in the Navy, you would be concerned as hell that someone named Reilly was proposing that people, not knowing the facts, should make a judgement as to whether a POW should be brought back.
John McCain would be happy to know that you left him in Vietnam, because he was shot down DISOBEYING ORDERS.
Now, every sailor can worry if they left enough evidence to make them WORTHY of a rescue.
|
|
Ward Trotter
Trad climber
|
|
Robert is the weedy looking dude with the Taliban look.
The blue tie. Nice touch.
|
|
crankster
Trad climber
|
|
Oh boy, more tea party talking points. Tell me, what did Hannity have to say tonight? I missed it.
|
|
Ward Trotter
Trad climber
|
|
tLki g
= talking
Werner was right again.
Oh boy, more tea party talking points. Tell me, what did Hannity have to say tonight? I missed it.
Hannity/tea party.......wuuuuuuuuuu
Was the last Stewart show red meat for old hippy 60s progressives?
|
|
Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
|
|
Jon Stewart says Republicans are finally taking some expert advice.
In a “Daily Show” segment Wednesday, he said Republicans have routinely ignored scientific evidence on global warming. But when the U.S. released Taliban prisoners in exchange for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, Fox News’ Sean Hannity called in former Col. Oliver North for comment.
North became famous in the 1980s as the face of the Iran-Contra Affair, in which he helped sell missiles to Iran, which was under an arms embargo, in return for help in trying to free seven Americans held in Lebanon by a group with Iranian ties. He then funneled money from the missile sales to anti-communist Contras in Nicaragua.
In his interview with Hannity, North said that if the U.S. paid a bounty for Bergdahl's release, it was funding “a criminal enterprise that kills Americans.”
“So you're saying it now like it's a bad thing,” Stewart said. “Does it just make you mad because it's gone mainstream?”
He imagined North sounding like someone who's favorite band gets too popular: “I was into using American taxpayer dollars to arm terrorist groups way before it was cool.”
|
|
crankster
Trad climber
|
|
Are you on the vodka IV, too, Ward? Unplug it now!
You right wing extremists would be calling for the presidents head if the kid was beheaded on YouTube. You are all hypocrites full of fake outrage. Politics, all of it. Can't wait to get some Republican numbskull in office. How'd that work out last time?
|
|
Ward Trotter
Trad climber
|
|
You right wing extremists would be calling for the presidents head if the kid was beheaded on YouTube. You are all hypocrites full of fake outrage. Politics, all of it. Can't wait to get some Republican numbskull in office. How'd that work out last time?
Sounds identical to a Taliban press release.
You aren't going to start growing one of those Bergdahl beards are you?
Another sagebrush "progressive" bites the dust.
What's wrong with this picture?
Answer: the RPG slung over the shoulder.
|
|
crankster
Trad climber
|
|
Oh, he's got a beard, he must be a Muslim!!
|
|
fluffy
Trad climber
Colorado
|
|
Oh I get it ward trotter is the scrub who shows up when chief and anderson have drunk themselves to sleep
|
|
crankster
Trad climber
|
|
I tell you, it's intravenous vodka that fuels the ultra conservative right.
|
|
Ward Trotter
Trad climber
|
|
Oh, he's got a beard, he must be a Muslim!!
Didn't you see the blue tie he was wearing at the Rose Garden party?
He's a Democrat/Liberal/Socialist/Talibaner
You guys better call in a few more Taliban gangbangers. 2 on 1 is bad odds for the "progressive " left.
Oh, he's got a beard, he must be a Muslim!!
Sounds like this Unabomber " crankster" is already sporting a Taliban beard.
Wow that was quick.
BTW why weren't the families of those guys killed (searching for Bergdahl) invited to a WH party?
Will Obama have a party for them one day soon?
I say give them a party.
What do you think? This is not a Democrat/Republican issue.
If Obama does give them a Rose Garden party,
Will they be forced to wear clip-on Taliban beards?
|
|
Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
|
|
wow.
there is no intelligent life on supertaco.
this thread is proof.
|
|
Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
|
|
Ward, it seems kinda nutz to pick on a dad who's kid has been a POW for the last 5 years...
|
|
|
SuperTopo on the Web
|