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nutjob
Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
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Air Force guy has a serious Solitaire issue.
Or maybe he's a closet Supertopo addict?
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cintune
climber
Midvale School for the Gifted
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shut up and pull
climber
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AND SHE WAS THE DEM LEADER IN THE HOUSE?
Nancy Pelosi, press conference, September 7, 2006:
[E]ven if [Osama bin Laden] is caught tomorrow, it is five years too late. He has done more damage the longer he has been out there. But, in fact, the damage that he has done ... is done. And even to capture him now I don't think makes us any safer.
Nancy Pelosi, earlier today:
The death of Osama bin Laden marks the most significant development in our fight against al-Qaida. ... I salute President Obama, his national security team, Director Panetta, our men and women in the intelligence community and military, and other nations who supported this effort for their leadership in achieving this major accomplishment. ... [T]he death of Osama bin Laden is historic....
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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So when the front leading republican president candidate was dropping the f-bomb and worrying about Obama place of birth...the real president was doing his job.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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U.S. intelligence uncovered the courier's identity four years ago "from a different part of the world," the senior U.S. official said. He declined to say where
Fatboy's right. KSM sang under water. Not only did we get the courier's name, but we stopped some other major attacks in the planning.
And if water-boarding is illegal in extreme cases, why do y'all say about violating a nation's sovereignty without a former declaration of war and killing their inhabitants???
Got hypocrisy?
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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while the pres was gettin her done, fatty was still lookin for that lipstick on a pig.
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why do y'all say about violating a nation's sovereignty without a former declaration of war and killing their inhabitants???
so bluey i take it you wish the motherf*#ker was still alive? didnt the mofo violate our sovereignity first?
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micronut
Trad climber
fresno, ca
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Yall really think Obama had much to do with this? You guys are too funny. You each want your guy to take the credit for this and for the other dude's guy to look like an imbicile. What a silly little girlfight.
By the way, what is that a picture of in front of Missus Clinton?
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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And if water-boarding is illegal in extreme cases, why do y'all say about violating a nation's sovereignty without a former declaration of war and killing their inhabitants???
Got hypocrisy?
We should not do it.
In this case, I don't think we did that. I believe that we had permission.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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The Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists (Pub.L. 107-40, 115 Stat. 224, enacted September 18, 2001), one of two resolutions commonly known as "AUMF" (the other being "Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002"), was a joint resolution passed by the United States Congress on September 14, 2001, authorizing the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the attacks on September 11, 2001. The authorization granted the President the authority to use all "necessary and appropriate force" against those whom he determined "planned, authorized, committed or aided" the September 11th attacks, or who harbored said persons or groups. The AUMF was signed by President George W. Bush on September 18, 2001.
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f*#kin retards like SUAP, bluey, fattard......the president had every legal right to kill OBL.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Hawk wrote: f*#kin retards like SUAP, bluey, fattard......the president had every legal right to kill OBL.
Did you expect anything less from them?
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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they never fail to disappoint....
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TYeary
Social climber
State of decay
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"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that"
— Martin Luther King Jr.
TYeary
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jstan
climber
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We elect a President to make decisions. Any choice that is obviously correct, is not a decision.
Our worship of partisan politics, threatens to make us
impotent.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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We seem to be violating international law all the time these days and it's nothing new. We just feel entitled.
And it's not just because of the OBL boogeyman, we have been violating it in Waziristan all along, it just takes a little more balls and excuses to do it in a Pakistani Military town.
And you do have to hand it to Obama, it does appear that he did what Bush spend a trillion trying to do. Ya'll want a more efficient government eh?
But after the feel good is over, what's really accomplished or changed. (maybe if we pull out somewhere) except that he's still trying to get the GOP to work with him and not be so partisan, a nice thought.
But Bin Laden?
Osama was old and repeatedly expressed a desire to die as a martyr rather than die of old age or in prison. So we really didn't hurt him per se, just fullfilled his wish just as we fulfilled his stated strategy, which was to bankrupt the US by causing us to overuse our military. (how Reagan alledgedly bankrupted the soviet union)
Bin Laden and the Islamists had no shortage of opportunities to spread their message. Are we really afraid his ideas have such power that a trial would spread them? Having him prisoner would be a much greater blow to radical islamist sensibilities.
Peace
Karl
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marv
Mountain climber
Bay Area
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let's say the U.S. violated "international law" ...
... that's what superpowers do (see China, see U.S.)
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Swimming in LEB tears.
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bluering said Got hypocrisy?
Got birth certificate?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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I'm very happy Obama gave to 'go-order'. Very happy.
Just be careful when you accuse Bush of violating Int'l Law and needs to be prosecuted. The whole Int'l Criminal Court is a European suck-fest.
We act in our own interests, as we should. F*#k the ICC! Obama acted against ICC rules and good for him!
Side-note: Milestone Alert!!! My son just took his first crap in a toilet. It was a double tap!
I think my son has officially sh#t on OBL by introducing his feces into the water supply. Good boy!
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Gene
climber
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This thread is over. Thank you.
Our closing credits...
Side-note: Milestone Alert!!! My son just took his first crap in a toilet. It was a double tap!
I think my son has officially sh#t on OBL by introducing his feces into the water supply. Good boy!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Assassinating people in a sovereign country? Bombing Libyans without a formal war declaration?
I'm not opposed to either. But let's gauge our criticism properly.
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