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Fat Dad
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Los Angeles, CA
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Nov 11, 2017 - 07:55pm PT
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And yet new world order 2, there's a BIG difference between the libs and you. When the allegations came out against all those folks, the liberals condemned them. We didn't compare them to the Holy Family or continue to defend them. When they came out against Trump, the Republicans like you elected him to the White House. See the difference?
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Nov 11, 2017 - 08:11pm PT
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NWO is like the disgruntled monkey at the zoo. Try not to make eye contact or they'll throw sh!t at you.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Nov 12, 2017 - 09:08am PT
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rape, like murder, is not only acceptable in the bible, but is in fact ordered by god as punishment for various transgressions
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WBraun
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Nov 12, 2017 - 09:28am PT
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Roy Moore’s Behavior Is Perfectly Biblical
All horsesh!t as these so-called Christians (poseurs) just interpret the sh!t out of that book to fit their own agendas ......
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WBraun
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Nov 12, 2017 - 09:37am PT
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He IS a hypocrite and idiot .....
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Nov 12, 2017 - 09:52am PT
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All this stupid circus is provided to disract the sheep. Bleeeeaaat.... bleeaat. Vegas had too many gaping holes so Weinstein was roasted on the spit for you gapers. A fat repugnant man who had been doing the same thing for decades suddenly in the spotlight. Don't look at who's in the light, look to who's behind it and ask why now?
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Nov 12, 2017 - 10:31am PT
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Roy Moore has made his choice. You can call him disgusting or vile or sexist, but don’t use the word hypocrite. Moore is living the script." As Shakespeare wrote: "the Devil can quote Scripture for his purpose". It's low hanging fruit to cite the Old Testament as evidence of how f'ed up Christians are. Cite me some instances in the New Testament that support such conduct; then I'd concede that your point might have more validity.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Nov 12, 2017 - 10:32am PT
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Vegas had too many gaping holes
oh really? do tell us about all these "gaping holes"
think the Vegas mass murder was a "set up" like the 1969 landing?
so Weinstein was roasted on the spit for you gapers. A fat repugnant man who had been doing the same thing for decades suddenly in the spotlight. Don't look at who's in the light, look to who's behind it and ask why now?
no one roasted Weinstein, he did it too himself, just like Trump did and many others
as for your naive questions as to "why" women are reporting things, no conspiracy,
women have had enough keeping quiet, and when they read about other women coming forward recently they feel braver, enough to come out with their own accounts of sexual molestation and harassment - what part of this concept do you not understand
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Nov 12, 2017 - 11:19am PT
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Conservative Christians often proclaim that the Quran encourages marriage and molestation of girls who are too young for consent. But it’s rare that they take to the airwaves proclaiming that the Bible does the same. By citing the Bible and Christian tradition in defense of Roy Moore, that is exactly what they have done. And their arguments have merit.
Rape in the Bible is a violation—not against a woman but against her male owner.
it will be interesting to see how this shakes out. Certainly, Alabama is a GOP stronghold. But it is not as though there are no democrats. What this may come down to, is turnout. I imagine that continuing revelations will also have an impact.
Moore is the worst possible, short of a convicted felon. If elected, the Senate will do everything possible to bury him on a back bench.
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drF
Trad climber
usa
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Nov 12, 2017 - 06:20pm PT
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He IS a hypocrite and idiot .....
Yep. Moore and Nortloon. Two peas in a pod for opposite reasons.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Nov 13, 2017 - 10:22am PT
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So stupid... Just wait until we can sue Anheuser-Busch for every DUI murder.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 13, 2017 - 10:39am PT
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Monolith, I interpret your response as a defense of the principle that creators of substances/devices that are used to hurt other people should not be held liable. Is there a line in the sand somewhere?
Can I start a company selling grenades out of my truck next to Walmart? What about bazookas? What about model rockets or drones with home-made plastic explosives? What about dirty fission bombs?
If you think these should be illegal... why? Because they cause harm? Because the devices are outlawed? Something else?
Is it enough to invent a weak reason for something to be used other than for premeditated murder or property damage? Hey, it's just for entertainment. You know, like for parties out on BLM land.
I don't have my personal view of various gun issues settled, but I do think that excessive manufacture of deadly weapons that flood the market is part of the problem. Companies are pursuing a profit motive to capitalize on the "needs" of their consumers- but as a national policy, I think these needs should be treated as a pathology to be treated or cured (e.g. counseling for fear and powerlessness, job training to gain marketable skills, etc.) , rather than a justifiable need to be satisfied in an open market that makes us all less safe. Actually if I follow this line of argument in other areas aside from guns- it would destroy our modern economy and consumerism in general :)
I do think equipment vendors should be liable- that is a mechanism to hold the manufacturers accountable for the societal costs of their products, and then they can pass on the costs to their consumers to reduce the number of such weapons created and purchased in the future.
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c wilmot
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Nov 13, 2017 - 10:52am PT
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Nutagain- Rap music would be terribly expensive if that happened
The negative societal cost of their product is enormous
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Nov 13, 2017 - 12:06pm PT
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my vote for best come back to another poster who has upset your attempt at logic
is to take a good look at their username and play around with the letters in the reply!
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 13, 2017 - 01:07pm PT
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A path to blocking abortions:
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/13/563737297/supreme-court-takes-on-case-about-free-speech-and-abortion
Consider this in the context of:
1. Defunding services that offer abortions, so they are physically difficult for poor people to reach such a service.
2. Private services cropping up in their place with coaching for keeping the babies and no mention of solutions that involve abortion.
Without rehashing the whole right to life/right to choose debate, one thing seems pretty clear: women suffer most of the consequences when men and women together conceive an unwanted child. We don't need more ways for society to hold back women more than men for the same "offense."
Women who are financially struggling don't shop around for the clinic that most aligns with their ideology- they are seeking the first help, maybe the only help, they can get. As such, clinics that don't discuss the range of options available are preying on women's vulnerability and consigning them to lifetime commitments in order to promote an ideology.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Nov 13, 2017 - 02:47pm PT
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China has once again prevailed in the biannual list of the world's fastest supercomputers. The country not only claimed the top two fastest supercomputer systems, it beat the United States in the overall number of systems ranked.
Does this mean China will be the first to be over-run by A.I.? Will they answer the "MIND" question before everybody else?
The Top500 report that ranks the world's speediest super machines sees China's Sunway TaihuLight maintain its lead at the top of the list for the fourth time; it boasts a performance of 93.01 petaflops. China's Tianhe-2, also known as the Milky Way-2, remains at the number two spot with three times less the performance at 33.86 petaflops.
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Yury
Mountain climber
T.O.
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Nov 13, 2017 - 06:50pm PT
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fear:
Just wait until we can sue Anheuser-Busch for every DUI murder. Beer do not kill people.
People who drink beer kill people.
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cite these cases Nortloon. They don't exist.
Let us know!