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monolith
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state of being
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Apr 23, 2016 - 08:12pm PT
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Sanders vs Kasich. Sanders wins.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_kasich_vs_sanders-5817.html
Of course this is national polling which doesn't necessary equate electoral votes, but since Sanders decimates Hillary in the battleground states vs Trump, I bet he would still do better than Hillary there vs Kasich.
If Kasich gets the nomination, 538 state predictions will be very interesting, since Kasich dominates Clinton in the national polling.
Lets hope Trump can do enough deals with the uncommitted delegates so he gets the nomination on the first ballot.
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crankster
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No. Tahoe
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Apr 23, 2016 - 08:26pm PT
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Kasich is way, way beyond a long shot. You'd have to believe that the Republican "establishment" has substantially more influence than they've shown. It's Trump. Cruz is a long shot.
Regarding Bernie's poll numbers, you should read this:
http://time.com/4305514/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-general-election-polls/
Part of the discrepancy has to do with the early unfamiliarity of the candidates. This year, despite months of frequent coverage on television, social media and the press, Sanders is not as well known as Clinton. A recent NBC/Wall Street Journal poll showed that 56% of Americans say they know Clinton “a lot” while just 38% say the same as Sanders. And while Clinton’s negative ratings may be baked-in after decades in the public eye, Sanders has not received that kind of scrutiny.
In politics, familiarity breeds contempt. If Republicans viewed Sanders as the likely Democratic nominee, he would face negative advertising and intense scrutiny of his record, on everything from his honeymoon in the Soviet Union to his large spending programs. Like any less well-known candidate, Sanders’ unfavorable ratings would rise as people became more familiar with him, pollsters say.
For now, Sanders serves as a kind of stand-in for the Democratic Party, a lesser-known candidate whose popularity reflects the overall favorability of the party, says Stan Greenberg, a veteran Democratic pollster. The Democratic Party is viewed more favorably than the Republican Party, with a favorable-unfavorable rating of about 45-47 compared with 31-58 for the Republicans, according to poll averages. That suggests that in a national race between a generic Democrat and a generic Republican, the generic Democrat would win. At this point in the race, that “brand advantage” benefits Sanders.
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 23, 2016 - 08:39pm PT
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Politards
The stupidest people on the planet.
Their brains were born from inside a dumpster ......
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Apr 23, 2016 - 08:48pm PT
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At Hillary's inauguration in Yosemite Valley the dumpsters will be sealed, welded shut.
Too much of a security risk..a deranged, religious extremist could hide there and shout obscenities, disrupting the proceedings.
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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
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Apr 23, 2016 - 09:31pm PT
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kattz
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Apr 25, 2016 - 09:24am PT
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Another pearl from Sanders:
Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders is attributing his recent primary losses to the "fact" that "poor people don't vote," delivering the comments during a taped interview with NBC's "Meet the Press."
NBC News host Chuck Todd told Sanders Saturday that "17 of the 25 states with the highest levels of income inequality have held primaries. Sixteen of those 17 states have been won by Hillary Clinton, not by you. Why?"
Sanders replied: "Well, because poor people don't vote. I mean, that's just a fact."
Another piece of non-sense.
Really? So, they can't lay off welfare-paid cake and haul themselves to vote? Too busy dealing drugs while living in subsidized housing? (I had to spend quite a bit of time in the past helping some truly needy individuals, who deserved all help they could get, and while doing so I had seen up close the large army of frauds sucking off various types of welfare, fake disabilities -- yes, there're lawyers' and doctors' networks that can "organize" this for you and they have bribe-in channels in the government bodies, faking the need for refugee status (aka lifetime of free stuff, once they get to know how to milk the system), driving up to collect food stamps on a new Mercedes, etc)
So, Sanders, seems like your solution will be to pay the "poor people" to vote? Because it's, again, "someone else's fault" that they don't vote enough. Would be in-line with the rest of the proposed policies. I guess bringing in the hordes of illegals who breed with the speed of light (just look at the population dynamics statistics for almost all US states since 2000), to create the "right" voter base, still doesn't work for your camp (it works only for the true Democrats...)
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Apr 25, 2016 - 09:42am PT
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how will this affect the Tom Brady Campaign?
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STEEVEE
Social climber
HUMBOLDT, CA
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Apr 25, 2016 - 09:50am PT
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how will this affect the Tom Brady Campaign? It's been deflated
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Apr 25, 2016 - 09:54am PT
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how will this affect the Tom Brady Campaign?
It won't. Haters will continue to hate. Winners will continue to win.
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STEEVEE
Social climber
HUMBOLDT, CA
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Apr 25, 2016 - 09:55am PT
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Apr 25, 2016 - 10:00am PT
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I'll vote for the gold gigger out of those four.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Apr 25, 2016 - 10:14am PT
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Hillary Clinton is our next President...
Agreed, and is likely to end the US's long standing streak of presidential transition free of violence.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Apr 25, 2016 - 10:43am PT
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If Cruz gets the nomination, the Trumpkins will do their rioting in July.
If Trump gets the nomination, he'll lose by such a landslide the Trumpkins won't riot, they'll just cry.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Apr 25, 2016 - 10:53am PT
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Escopeta posted Agreed, and is likely to end the US's long standing streak of presidential transition free of violence.
Are you planning an insurrection?
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dirtbag
climber
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Apr 25, 2016 - 11:03am PT
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Yes, he plans to occupy a wildlife refuge in protest.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Apr 25, 2016 - 11:06am PT
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I always considered the transitions between the Lincoln and Andrew Johnson to be rather violent.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Apr 25, 2016 - 11:07am PT
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Or is this because Obama will refuse to give up power and Clinton will need to reveal herself as a shapeshifting lizard from the 7th dimension and raise her armies of lizard people to oust him?
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