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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Apr 22, 2016 - 06:00pm PT
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This is why I say that Bernie should stay in till the end
Let the People vote for Bernie
I don't vote until June.
and when the General comes around, we will let Bernie tell us who to endorse, be it him or Hillary
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 22, 2016 - 06:10pm PT
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Bernie and Hitlery are both useless.
Throw em into the useless politard dumpster .......
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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
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Apr 22, 2016 - 06:16pm PT
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The dumpster is full Werner
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Apr 22, 2016 - 06:17pm PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video]Sorry Craig but your vote will not mean much.Just like mine.
It is over.
The machine will win.
I feel damn righteous indeed,should have known better,this country ,this democracy ,is f*#ked.
On to Syria!
My last post here.
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 22, 2016 - 06:27pm PT
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The dumpster is full ...
LOL ..... !!!
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Apr 22, 2016 - 06:31pm PT
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You have to vote to stop the Republicans from winning
That's all
Vote blue no matter who,
and down ticket too
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Apr 23, 2016 - 05:32am PT
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Wilbeer, I hope you come back. Sorry things got heated.
Hillary's VP...who is it?
A winner, someone who can dominate the vice-presidential debate and convince Americans that Mrs. Clinton is their best choice.
A partner who is unquestionably qualified for the presidency and would help create the strongest contrast with the Republican ticket, which could be dogged by questions about Donald J. Trump’s fitness for the presidency or Senator Ted Cruz’s unbending conservatism.
Someone who could be an effective attack dog against either candidate.
She knows that if she chooses a younger and ambitious vice president, she will have someone by her side who may be making calculations with an eye toward running for the presidency in 2024.
Mrs. Clinton wants a running mate who would accept and appreciate that Mr. Clinton, as a former president, would offer expertise and guidance — and perhaps play a formal role on specific issues
Who?
I'm leaning towards Elizabeth Warren. She ticks a lot of boxes, although, she's another NE liberal. Julian Castro brings a lot, too, but his resume is thin.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Apr 23, 2016 - 01:43pm PT
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With a republican-controlled congress attempting to roll back every liberal-leaning law they possibly can, being 'insufficiently committed to core liberal principles' isn't going to cut it; a scrapping pragmatist will serve us far better until we can take back the congress.
And in the meantime priority one is take back the supreme court so any progressive / liberal ideas that do make it into law in the future will survive the inevitable court challenges.
Care about the environment and attacks on the epa? Vote for hillary in the general...
Care about the erosion of civil and voting rights? Vote for hillary in the general...
Care about the diversity and lgbt rights? Vote for hillary in the general...
Care about the supporting gun control and stopping rampant police shootings? Vote for hillary in the general...
It's all about the supreme court this cycle. Moving the court back to the right due to one's righteous 'liberal principles' is the ultimate in shooting oneself and everyone else in the foot and might as well be in the head.
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Apr 23, 2016 - 05:23pm PT
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Fortunately for Dems, there are more Trump/Cruz voters than Bernie voters.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Apr 23, 2016 - 07:13pm PT
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It's possible neither Cruz or Trump gets the nomination, which would mean an establishment repub like Kasich gets it. Since Hillary polls badly against Kasich, I'd want my best dem candidate. Who is that? It's Sanders who outperforms Hillary in the battleground states.
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Apr 23, 2016 - 07:25pm PT
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Would be a sad day in DC if Warren even considered the VP position. Too much integrity and potential to involve herself with the Clinton BS.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Apr 23, 2016 - 07:29pm PT
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Boy, we're into the fantasy stuff now.
Odd of Sanders v Kasich? Million to one?
Yeah, let's see Warren work for the job on her own instead of riding Hillary's coat tails.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Apr 23, 2016 - 07:29pm PT
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My thought exactly guido
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Norton
Social climber
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Apr 23, 2016 - 07:37pm PT
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I have to believe Hillary picks a safe white male as VP, Senator Sherrod Brown would be great
having an all female ticket may be too much of a risk, enough people have a problem already with the thought of a woman President
Even though Obama whomped McCain and Romney pretty bad, exit polls showed as many as seven million people said they did not vote for him because he was black
lots of men out there won't vote for a woman either, why risk losing more votes with the VP pick.....
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Apr 23, 2016 - 07:48pm PT
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I'm not sure if Americans' can handle the negative female energy of a Hillary and Warren white house..?
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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
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Apr 23, 2016 - 07:55pm PT
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I seriously doubt Warren would join forces with Hillary...more likely to join Bernie.
Lee Camp on Russia TV's Redacted tells it like it is...Plutocracy is Winning. I don't always agree with Camp but he's very entertaining...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Here Abby Martin, formerly with RT, now Empire Files, does a no holds barred critique on Hillary similar to the Anonymous video posted ^^^ There's so much material in the Clinton's past that it's almost too easy. Abby makes no attempt to be fair or balanced.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
According to realclearpolitics.com, the official popular vote count...
Demos
Hillary 10,404,655
Bernie 7,710,382
Total = 18,115,037
Repubs
Trump 8,722,467
Cruz 6,389,500
Rubio 3,445,578
Kasich 3,178,315
Total = 21,735,860
What if Kasich or Cruz emerge as the Repub candidate and Hillary from the Demos and both Trump & Bernie run as Independents?
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STEEVEE
Social climber
HUMBOLDT, CA
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Apr 23, 2016 - 08:03pm PT
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The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. -Tacitus Everything you mention, Healj, are only symptoms of a crumbling society, more laws are not going to change the hearts and minds of the people. Eventually enforcement becomes impossible. So, will voting for Hillary change the hearts and minds of the people? I don't think so.
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Norton
Social climber
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Apr 23, 2016 - 08:08pm PT
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if only tens of millions of American voters would just take the time to watch that video
surely they would agree with that woman and change their minds and not vote for her
too bad it won't happen....
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