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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Apr 22, 2016 - 02:24pm PT
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Steve, so you're a Cruz supporter from Humboldt...a rare breed.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Apr 22, 2016 - 02:25pm PT
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Yep, Hillary has low likability numbers, but can still beat Trump easily.
If Kasich gets the nomination, it's over for Hillary, but Sanders can still beat Kasitch.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Apr 22, 2016 - 02:31pm PT
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The stupidity of the populace will allow Trump to become President because they are too stupid to vote against him out of ideological stupidity.
Yes, stupidity may rein in this election because stupid just people can't figure out how to stop him
It's really quite simple, don't be an idiot,
vote for the opposition be it Hillary or Bernie
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STEEVEE
Social climber
HUMBOLDT, CA
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Apr 22, 2016 - 02:46pm PT
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It's really quite simple, don't be an idiot,
vote for the opposition be it Hillary or Bernie Trust me...I will vote for the opposition.
The idiots will vote for Hillary or Trump.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Apr 22, 2016 - 02:49pm PT
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Proof there's a tea party on the left.
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STEEVEE
Social climber
HUMBOLDT, CA
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Apr 22, 2016 - 02:55pm PT
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Proof there's a tea party on the left. That's the attitude. Label those who disagree.
I'm just trying to look towards a future that values community instead of money.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Apr 22, 2016 - 03:05pm PT
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Hillary is to the left of Gore
Trump and Cruz are to the far right of Bush
If you can't decide which one is better, then you don't deserve to vote
That's the voter IQ test
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Norton
Social climber
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Apr 22, 2016 - 03:17pm PT
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Well,
since Steve lives in California his not voting for Mrs Clinton won't matter at all
since Hillary will very easily win California's electoral votes over Trump or Cruz anyway
so maybe the founding fathers got it right when they said each vote only counts once
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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Apr 22, 2016 - 03:19pm PT
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Can we just agree that everything is those other stupid people's fault and be done with it? Yea us! (and by us I mean me :-)
But then we have those evolved "us" structures in our brains that make it easy for us to learn to communicate and work together. I don't know - it's a conundrum. Slash and burn independent political game, or compromised group party political game? Bernie's still working it out, like the rest of us.
Except maybe for those gifted savants among us who believe that they've already worked it out. And by them I mean us independent neural processing units with our "independent"oh created beliefs.
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STEEVEE
Social climber
HUMBOLDT, CA
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Apr 22, 2016 - 03:20pm PT
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Well, I suppose I might be too dumb to vote. Thanks for explaining that to me Craig.
Enjoy walking around in your smart little circle.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Apr 22, 2016 - 04:34pm PT
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I will not vote for Hillary...never. And if Trump gets elected, it's the Dems fault.
No, it will be your fault and that of other mindless reactionaries who would sacrifice the supreme court nomination for the sake of their all too righteous indignation.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Apr 22, 2016 - 04:55pm PT
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Look,you have called us the Tea party,reactionaries,deluded and others to name a few.
Now you look to blame us if she is not coronated.
The Lady has Huge discrepancies in her past and policies of the present.
Huge.
There is no getting around it.Trump will take it to her in that direction.
She will be on the defensive the whole time.
It will not be good.
Her last two primary wins,which will put her in the GE,were in Arizona and New York.
Real prizes,but in reality, if draconian voter laws were not in place ,she would have lost.
Your publicly and corporate funded mob will have to pay the price.
There are quite a few people that will abstain and not support her whatsoever,sure you all considered that.
Now ,it is a reality.
She has alienated the young vote and she was never going to get most of the Independent vote.
Neither of which she seems to respect.
That will Double Down now.
So keep calling Bernie supporters the Tea Party.
Get ready for Corporatist Butt Rape for at least 4 years.
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Norton
Social climber
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Apr 22, 2016 - 05:08pm PT
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The Lady has Huge discrepancies in her past and policies of the present.
Wilbeer, for the benefit of those who don't agree with you, why don't you outline those discrepancies of Mrs. Clinton's, make your case factually and clearly
who knows, maybe you will change some minds to see her as negatively as you do
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Apr 22, 2016 - 05:11pm PT
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The question you have to ask;
Is there more that unites us than divides us?
Edit ;Norton ,have you read this thread?
WTF.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Apr 22, 2016 - 05:12pm PT
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I'm not referring to anyone who supports Bernie, but would vote for Hillary if she's nominated, even reluctantly.
But a Bernie supporter who pledges not to vote for her? That means they're helping pave the way for Trump or Cruz.
That's pretty radical stuff to me.
Look, Bernie will support Hillary and probably campaign for her if she works with him on party platform issues that are important to him.
Wilbeer, this question can't be answered by Bernie or you...where's the evidence that Hillary is influenced by Wall Street? Bernie drew a blank...oh, I know all about innuendo, but honestly, you can't substantiate the charge of "corporate rape".
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Apr 22, 2016 - 05:14pm PT
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Everyone should vote to defend their lifestyle
If you are a one percenter, then you vote for "THE REPUBICAN"
If you are not a one percenter, then you will have to vote to defend yourself against the other side that is owned by the one percent
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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
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Apr 22, 2016 - 05:19pm PT
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There are plenty of 1%ers who are voting for Hillary...
OR
did you mean "THE REPUBLICAN" includes Hillary?
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Apr 22, 2016 - 05:22pm PT
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some one percenters would willing vote to tax themselves more
some vote to lower their tax rates
and there is bigger money to lower tax rates
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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
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Apr 22, 2016 - 05:48pm PT
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According to the POLITICO Caucus...
Only 1 in 10 Democratic insiders said Sanders should try to woo superdelegates to help him overtake Clinton on the convention floor in Philadelphia if he finishes the primary season trailing in pledged delegates, as campaign manager Jeff Weaver suggested Tuesday night in a televised interview.
Some insiders are saying Weaver discredited himself and the Sanders campaign by suggesting that Bernie should take the campaign to the convention even if they are behind in popular vote & pledged delegates.
I guess I would vote with the 39% on this one...
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/insiders-to-bernie-dont-take-the-fight-to-philly-222291
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