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labrat

Trad climber
Auburn, CA
Apr 2, 2014 - 11:45pm PT
'What invasive fish are you talking about?'

Yes, I know many of these are great to fish for and catch. I've chased many of them myself (really enjoy the American Shad!).

The delta would be better off without them!

American shad
Striped bass
Brown trout
Channel catfish
White catfish
Yellow bullhead
Brown bullhead
Black bullhead
Black crappie
White crappie
Green sunfish
Bluegill
Redear sunfish
Largemouth bass
Smallmouth bass
Treadfin shad
Carp
Goldfish

EDIT
'I heard conflicting accounts that the Delta Smelt is not indigenous'

Seriously? Do some more reading. It would not be listed if it were not native....

EDIT 2
Source http://www.waterboards.ca.gov/waterrights/publications_forms/available_documents/peir_consolidate_cvpermits/docs/appendixc.pdf
ruppell

climber
Apr 2, 2014 - 11:56pm PT
That whole deal was a mismanaged decision on the part of those two, SCE & DWP. Had nothing to do with the "drought".

What? Do you even read what you post? You just stated that they where planning on a 65% fill the first year then 100% the next. That never happened. Why? Wait for it:


A DROUGHT started those years.












labrat

Trad climber
Auburn, CA
Apr 3, 2014 - 12:01am PT
It appears that The Chief is still groggy from the blows with zBrown ;-)
labrat

Trad climber
Auburn, CA
Apr 3, 2014 - 12:20am PT
Chief. 06/07 or 07/08? Please state you source ;-) 06/07 was a bad year

Annual Snowfall Totals


1997/1998 310
1998/1999 120
1999/2000 124
2000/2001 263
2001/2002 53
2002/2003 81
2003/2004 104
2004/2005 278
2005/2006 76
2006/2007 29
2007/2008 124
2008/2009 130
2009/2010 153
2010/2011 155
2011/2012 45
2012/2013 77
2013/2014 25

126 Inches (17 year avg)

Source
http://www.mthigh.com/mountain/snow-totals

EDIT The above is a bad example ;-(
labrat

Trad climber
Auburn, CA
Apr 3, 2014 - 12:25am PT
That's why I said it was a bad example.

How about this one. You can put in the years you want to see....

http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cdecapp/snowapp/swcchart.action

for North, Central, and South (California)

Sorry

bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Apr 3, 2014 - 12:30am PT
American shad
Striped bass
Brown trout
Channel catfish
White catfish
Yellow bullhead
Brown bullhead
Black bullhead
Black crappie
White crappie
Green sunfish
Bluegill
Redear sunfish
Largemouth bass
Smallmouth bass
Treadfin shad
Carp
Goldfish

What? Many of those species are natural hikers into brackish waters that seperate their natural waters from the salty Bay waters. Wouldn't call them intrusive. And Stripers are like Salmon, WTF? They use the oceans and the freshwater or brackish waters equally as a natural habitat.

Maybe goldfish though.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 3, 2014 - 12:36am PT
Wow, that's GREAT! Chuffer picks a random day of a random year and shows that we have almost, but not quite, reached that arbitrary amount of water!

Pay no attention to the fact that we are still 25-40% of normal... the 2006-07 snowpack had already started melting by April... and we are still more comparable to the driest year on record.

What a fuking dipsh#t.


We currently stand some 1.9" or so from equally 2007's total snowfall at Mammoth Pass.

(shhh, nobody tell the idiot he is looking at current snowpack and not total precipitation... or "total snowfall"... let's see how long it takes him to catch on... and see if he can comprehend the important difference)
labrat

Trad climber
Auburn, CA
Apr 3, 2014 - 12:44am PT
Thanks for the laughs! Glad I'm in a chair....
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Apr 3, 2014 - 01:03am PT
Pay no attention to the fact that we are still 25% of normal... the 2006-07 snowpack had already started melting by April... and we are still more comparable to the driest year on record.

The 'year' is not over yet. If you've lived in California, or done any research as a "hydrologist", you'd realize that Cali does this thing every 15 to 30 years or so. Natural cycles. We call them Indian Summers.

But I don't even see that happening this year, it's sub-par, but far from a "drought".

Again. let see what April brings...
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 3, 2014 - 01:05am PT
Awesome, redefining drought again!!! Just like you redefined climate to fit your needs. It must be difficult constantly fooling yourself into thinking you know sh#t about sh#t... unless of course you are an idiot... in which case it must be quite easy.

Imagine how stupid I would look if I went to a helipad and insisted I knew how to fly one of them whirly birds better than the pilots. Yeah, you look 100x stupider.

file:///C:/Users/Ricki/Downloads/Eastern%20Sierra%20Current%20Precipitation%20Conditions%20(3).pdf

Awesome Ricki... you included a link to your C: drive!!!!

Ah but then changed it to (god only knows what you were going for there) some LADWP site. Can you explain how that relates to the DWR site you referenced at the top of the page? (http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cdecapp/snowapp/swcchart.action);

Perhaps you were going for this: "Measurement as Inches Water Content; Precipitation totals are cumulative for water year beginning Oct 1"

Found here: https://www.ladwp.com/cs/idcplg?IdcService=GET_FILE&dDocName=LADWP003464&RevisionSelectionMethod=LatestReleased

Pure jenius!

it's sub-par, but far from a "drought".

hahahaha... blurring, you are a fuking idiot. It is a drought by definition! Unless of course we allow idiots to change the definition at whim.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Apr 3, 2014 - 01:26am PT
Imagine how stupid I would look if I went to a helipad and insisted I knew how to fly one of them whirly birds better than the pilots. Yeah, you look 100x stupider

Not really an accurate analogy. It would be more like telling a "hydrologist" that more water falling from the skies on a daily basis isn't less likely to incur a drought.

How can you stand by your "data-models" when it's APril 2nd? Have you no history in you models of Calif Aprils??
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 3, 2014 - 01:27am PT
Shut the fuk up Donny and go look up how drought is defined outside your own vapid skull.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 3, 2014 - 01:33am PT
The snow was already melting in April 07 huh HATECHRIST???


Odd, what then was it doing in April of 83... cloning itself as it melted? It did not peak till the end of April that Max season.

hahahhaaaaaaaaa... too much.... ahhahhahahhahaaaaaa.... make it stop....
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 3, 2014 - 01:39am PT
hey chuff, when the water content of the snow pack is going down, the snow is melting (or sublimating). It had already started going down by April 2007 (you see that right?)... which has exactly nothing to do with April 1983.

There is no fear in that, unless you are afraid of facing reality outside that impenetrable skull of yours.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 3, 2014 - 01:43am PT
Ah, not according to your graphs HATECHRIST. They started their descent the beginning of March of 2007.

Why?

There was NO SNOWFALL to record.

Wow, you really are THAT stupid! Thanks for the reminder.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 3, 2014 - 01:47am PT
yep... I said the 2006-07 snowpack had already started melting by April. When the water content of the snow pack is declining (when the line on the graph goes down) it means the snow was melting (or sublimating).

It must hurt being that stupid. I'm sorry for your suffering.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 3, 2014 - 01:55am PT
About as stupid as they come apparently.
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
extraordinaire
Apr 3, 2014 - 02:03am PT
The ski industry needs to to get up off it's ass and price/ advertise aggresively according to when the customers could possibly travel, and target families more, not the elderly rich minority.
The old days of everybody just going for it en masse are over.
labrat

Trad climber
Auburn, CA
Apr 3, 2014 - 02:10am PT
This topic sure took a turn for the worse with all the name calling ;-(

Goodnight.
Erik
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Apr 3, 2014 - 03:27am PT
i wanna do 30 days straight time in Quentin,
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