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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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May 16, 2016 - 05:57pm PT
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Yes, locker, but do you BELIEVE?
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d-know
Trad climber
electric lady land
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May 16, 2016 - 06:09pm PT
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Yep, there they were,
embryonic souls standing
in line like it's a
soup kitchen, waiting for
some brains or some
sh!t to get
plopped on the tray
of existence.
Quite insightful
bragman.
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Phantom X
Trad climber
Honeycomb Hideout
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May 16, 2016 - 06:13pm PT
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A cafeteria such as that would be lucky to rate two stars at best.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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May 16, 2016 - 06:42pm PT
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I wanted to know more,
so this is what I found
This proves that the Nazi's colonized Mars in the 1940s
It's a f-ing Nazi Helmut on Mars...
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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May 16, 2016 - 08:54pm PT
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Jim, I understand and agree with what you are saying, but unfortunately the Klimmers of this world have, through slavish obedience to some preached explanation of existence that is powerful and palatable because it absolves them of critical thought, pushed themselves into positions of power such that they can force their beliefs onto us. Make no mistake, the main appeal of this 'faith' is the fact that believers no longer have to evaluate and think, rather they are told what is true and how to act. No longer having to decide releases them from the burden of thought, and, as we have seen throughout history, this is the basis of an autocratic system.
Examples? the obvious ones, of course, Facism, Nazism, Pol Pot, Chairman Mao, Stalin, the list is endless. And what was required for these authoritarian systems to exist was acceptance that they correctly told people how to act and think. George Orwell was not far wrong, with 1984 existing in 2016 with Fox 'news' and the constant drum beat of propaganda, lies, and repetition.
Seriously, God save this country from the likes of Klimmer, who would follow Trump despite the fact that Trump is the antithesis of what he purports to believe in. Klimmer and kinder are able to gloss over what and who this Trump person really is. I really fear that Trump has a chance to win this election, simply because of the inability of many of our citizens to examine real evidence and think critically, to throw off the smothering blanket of lies and repetition that this election has become.
Maybe I'll move to the moon and live in the Ark. But what would the aliens say?
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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May 16, 2016 - 09:02pm PT
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after six years of "the truth will be revealed soon"
you have to think that Ms. Clinton's "investigation" is going to be disappointing to Klimmer... on the other hand, such a disappointment just fuels the conspiracy theory!
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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May 16, 2016 - 09:04pm PT
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Not quite that straight forward Klimmer. Being open to looking and believing are two different things: I've seen a UFO (unidentified flying object) but didn't think it was an alien spacecraft. I couldn't identify it, it was weird, but I seriously doubt it was aliens. There's a difference, maybe too subtle for you to understand.
From Mother Jones:
Once again, Hillary Clinton has pledged that she will discover as much as possible about government involvement in UFO research and share the information with the American people. Clinton was on Jimmy Kimmel's talk show Thursday night, and Kimmel brought up the fact that he'd asked former President Bill Clinton about his efforts on UFO disclosure during his administration. (Kimmel has also asked President Barack Obama about UFOs.)
"He said that he did do that and he didn't find anything," Kimmel said. Hillary Clinton replied, "Well, I'm going to do it again."
This is the second time during the last few months that Clinton has said she wants to tackle this issue. In late December, Clinton told a New Hampshire reporter that she thought "we may have been visited already," and that she would "get to the bottom" of the issue if elected president. Three weeks ago, Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, an X-Files fan and longtime Clinton aide, told a Las Vegas television station that he's pressed Clinton on the issue.
"I've talked to Hillary about that, this is a little bit of a cause of mine which is that people really want to know what the government knows, and there are still classified files that could be declassified," Podesta said at the time.
And while many dismiss UFOs with eye-rolling skepticism, Clinton showed Kimmel that she's familiar with the more scientific side of the issue, correcting his use of the term "UFO."
"There's a new name—it's 'unexplained aerial phenomenon,'" she said. "UAP, that's the latest nomenclature."
UAP is the term used by the scientific and evidence-based wing of the UFO research community, and is an attempt by those interested in the issue to get away from the derision and mockery that the term "UFO" typically provokes. When Podesta was interviewed in Las Vegas, he said, "I think I've convinced her that we need an effort to kind of go look at that and declassify as much as we can so that people have their legitimate questions answered and more attention and more discussion about unexplained aerial phenomena can happen without people who are in public life who are serious about this being ridiculed."
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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May 16, 2016 - 09:32pm PT
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Ain't wasting 2 hours of my life on that shite. More like Satan and his minions can appear as Klimmer, sucking my life away in pointless posting. Oops, that's me right now, a pointless post. Good night and sweet dreams to all, I have to work tomorrow.
But one last thought: Maybe you, Klimmer, are really a tool of Satan, supporting Satan's spawn, Trump. I'm pretty sure I could figure out some sort of numerology thing to show Trump = Satan (they do have the same number of letters, and T does follow S, and P is the first consonant to follow N, and M is the letter before N ....... but later). Just let me reassure you, there is a connection and it's pretty fukin scary.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
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Topic Author's Reply - May 19, 2016 - 08:20am PT
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You know if this topic wasn't of interest it wouldn't be in the news nor discussed by governments of many nations. But it is of interest. Many people know something is going on, they are witnesses, including many governments who are more forthcoming than our own. Apparently the world is bat-poop crazy because they are curious and they just want to know.
Some people are curious and want to know, and have no fear. Some people are in fear, strike out at others, use ad hominem attacks, bury their heads in the sand and say it just doesn't exist. Seriously sad state of being.
UFO News 2016: Obama White House Responds To Hillary Clinton's Promise To Disclose Area 51 And UAP Documents
By Andrew Whalen
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/ufo-news-2016-obama-white-house-responds-hillary-clintons-promise-disclose-area-51-535113
While past presidents and presidential candidates have joked about UFOs, Hillary Clinton is one of the first mainstream candidates to promise disclosure of classified Area 51, UFO and Unexplained Aerial Phenomena (UAP) documents should she be elected president.
“I want to open the files as much as we can,” Clinton said in a recent radio interview. In the wake of a New York Times article that brought renewed attention to Clinton’s most unexpected campaign commitment, President Barack Obama’s White House was asked to respond.
The answer, from President Obama’s press secretary Josh Earnest, will disappoint UFO enthusiasts still hoping for disclosure on the federal level:
“I have to admit, I don’t have a tab for Area 51 in my briefing book today,” Earnest began. After a joke from the press corp. Earnest proposed a “grand conspiracy” to keep him from answering the question thoroughly.
“I’m not aware of any plans the President has to make public any information about this,” Earnest said, ending hope that UFO disclosure will come from the White House in 2016.
Steve Bassett, executive director of The Citizen Hearing on Disclosure, believes Hillary Clinton’s openness on the issue will prompt the Obama administration to disclose classified extraterrestrial information. “Clinton’s presidential campaign and her connection to the ET issue may offer the best chance to end the truth embargo on the ET issue,” Bassett said. “Obama will be the Disclosure president — hopefully well before the November election.”
Not only has Clinton evinced a past interest in extraterrestrials — in 1995 she was photographed carrying Are We Alone?: Philosophical Implications of the Discovery of Extraterrestrial Life by Paul Davies (above) — but she’ll also have the backing of campaign chairman John Podesta, who has crusaded for the release of government information on unexplained aerial phenomena for decades.
While previous presidential administrations, Obama’s included, have treated declassification of Area 51 and UAP files as a joke, a Clinton presidency might at least take the demand seriously.
Once again, I guess Hillary R. Clinton is bat-poop crazy huh? (Well she is a liar about many things, yes that is true.) But she seems to be curious about this, as was Bill. Bill got shut down. He didn't have a need to know. They didn't tell him anything. He learned nothing.
If Hillary gets in, and I don't think she will, the new boss may be just the same as the old boss. And there it will linger. Cover-up and no disclosure.
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brotherbbock
climber
Alta Loma, CA
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May 19, 2016 - 08:27am PT
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I love how politics have now made it into this crankloon mega thread.
This sh#t is great.
Thanks Klimmer for the non-stop entertainment.
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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May 19, 2016 - 09:06pm PT
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Damn Klimmer, how do you know all this stuff? Bill Clinton, the President of the United States of America, the most powerful person (really) in the entire world, got shut out of information about aliens by some umber powerful cabal that is actually more powerful than the elected president, but you, a science teacher in California, KNOW he got shut out and, apparently, he doesn't. Wow, you must have some really good buddies.
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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May 19, 2016 - 09:13pm PT
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Sorry to reply to my own post but, but it just occurred to me that maybe there is some sort of powerful mind beam being projected from the Massive Ark on the Moon that is being used to control certain persons minds and that those aliens operating this beam missed their target and accidentally struck an innocent person, driving him or her sort of insane. Fill in names at your own risk of alien mind beams targeting YOU!!!!
I hear you all laughing in the distance. Well, I say to skeptics, disprove this great theory. Ha, ya can't!!!!
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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May 19, 2016 - 09:30pm PT
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I hear you all laughing in the distance. Well, I say to skeptics, disprove this great theory. Ha, ya can't!!!!
Oh yeah? Damn right I can disprove it. Here's photographic evidence.
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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May 19, 2016 - 11:02pm PT
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welcome to the terrarium
best take a look around outside this fragile glass bubble before someone gets bored and cleans it up
fantasies that earth-dwelling humans represent the epitome of intelligence and knowledge around here are just the latest foolishly conceited flat-earth theories
get over it, children
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Port
Trad climber
London, UK
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May 20, 2016 - 12:44am PT
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This thread is popular and of interest because of entertainment value, Klimmer. Not because of the any validity of alien visits to the moon. It's about the extreme delusion and the comedic value it provides to people in an otherwise normal day.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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May 20, 2016 - 01:48am PT
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I was firm in my belief and conviction that no aliens have ever contacted or visited earth, then Trump won the nom and that has me re-evaluating the whole alien proposition. Do nephilim have small hands?
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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May 20, 2016 - 05:54am PT
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Ghost, I'd forgotten about friggin' Tintin. Are you possibly suggesting that Captain Haddock was in command of the Massive Ark when it crashed? At least we now know the cause. This is all starting to make sense ..........
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