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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Don't confuse 'popular' with 'electable', let alone 'able to govern.'
Bernie would nominate Nosferatu to chair the Fed.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Reilly, I got news for you, Nosferatu's been running the Fed for some time now.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 3, 2017 - 01:42pm PT
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What is the difference between popular and electable?
It seems to me, that "electable" is an adjective cooked up by people who get frustrated when verifiable facts contradict their preconceived notions. "Unelectable" is a convenient reframing because it is hypothetical and you can't be proven wrong unless a person is already elected. But if your point is to suppress someone before an election, then it is a perfect label to sow discord and doubt without fear of factual contradiction in the time period where you want to influence others.
Now, if there was a poll that said Bernie is popular because lots of people like him, but if the same sample showed that people who like him wouldn't vote for him, that is a different story.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Well, Gary, we probably agree that economics is called The Dark Science for any number of appropriate reasons, chief of which is undoubtedly its incomprehensibilty to the average crankloon. And given that 43% of Americans are hard pressed to balance their checkbooks, (assuming they have one) Nosferatu would be more understandable, if not more warm and cuddly than Jerome Powell. On the other hand I would love it were Janet Yellen to read me a good night story, especially if she threw in an ad-libbed DSGE model.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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...chief of which is undoubtedly its incomprehensibilty to the average crankloon.
It also seems incomprehensible to the average economist, going by their track records. Sad!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jorrah, I have my own set of monikers, thank you. ‘Dismal’ is too optimistic. The two well known economists I’ll be hosting for dinner tomorrow have adequate senses of humour, and the good sense, to agree with me. ;-)
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drF
Trad climber
usa
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Crankloon says...
I don’t really know why but I saw it on a bumper sticker so now I embrace it.
This is the essence of the Crankloons. Drooling morons staring at bumper stickers. Trust-funder retard he is.
No clue. Living on lies.
It's comical.
That Crankloon will defend his(?) criminals 100% to support his deluded reality.
I love it. Clinton's and Dem crooks are swirling the bowl.
Losers
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Secret money to boost Trump
A former anti-Trump financier offers GOP mega-donors who are embarrassed by Trump the chance to help him anonymously.
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drF
Trad climber
usa
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Std clueless zD#@&%e post
Cite your sources? I know...you got nada
You TacoDummies are such weak sauce
You clowns need to suss out your 'party'
You are party fools of epic proportions.
Stop losing
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WBraun
climber
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That's right ^^^^
They are certified brainwashed insane listening to all that horsesh!t coming out of those st00pid media tools every day .....
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zBrown
Ice climber
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501(c)(4)
Registered
Look it up fool
Middle class Americans deserve a larger paycheck. Thank you House Republicans for introducing the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act!
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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You had to know Hillary's driving the party into a brick wall and the false equivalency the Trumpsters will fuk to death would give drf and Werner a simi.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Best wishes for those fighting the "gud-fight" tonight.
I'm all mellowed out from 4-daze of frantic "ranchette" fall clean-up before rain & snow this weekend.
But, I still must say:
Halford E. Luccock famously said, “When and if fascism comes to America it will not be labeled ‘made in Germany’; it will not be marked with a swastika; it will not even be called fascism; it will be called, of course, ‘Americanism.’”
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 4, 2017 - 09:26pm PT
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OK, foreign policy... some sensible thoughts mixed with some tin foil hat ones. You decide which are which.
This headline caught my eye and I immediately thought of the movie Syriana. Highly recommended movie and frame of reference if you haven't seen it. It is very dense with info and subplots- you'll catch new stuff on multiple viewings, and it seems to be a great history/politics lesson describing the USA relationship with the Middle East, with a focus on Saudi Arabia. Real life mirroring fiction?
Saudi Arabia Arrests 11 Princes, Including Billionaire Alwaleed bin Talal
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/04/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-waleed-bin-talal.html
So we have a person educated abroad and managing a large investment portfolio, outspoken in support of women, and from his webpage:
One of Prince Alwaleed’s lifetime aims is to initiate meaningful dialogue and discussion between Islam and other world cultures to diffuse tensions and set a path towards openness, understanding, and peace. The Prince has been outraged by the violent actions of an extreme minority who have so hatefully obscured the dignity and peaceful teachings of Islam. He is determined to use his high profile to support peace and initiate positive change for every citizen of the world. * http://www.alwaleed.com.sa/about/insights-and-view-points/
* http://www.alwaleed.com.sa/about/philosophy/
Now one month after Jared Kushner is in Saudi Arabia for private meetings, we have Alwaleed bin Talal arrested by the dude rising to power, who so concerned German intelligence agencies that they issued warnings to the press more than a year ago:
* http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/prince-mohammed-bin-salman-naive-arrogant-saudi-prince-is-playing-with-fire-a6804481.html
* http://www.dw.com/en/german-spy-agency-warns-of-saudi-intervention-destabilizing-arab-world/a-18889664
It is interesting to note that the dude arrested and President Trump sparred on Twitter before Trump was elected. It's tough to say whether Kutchner's visit had anything to do with this, either encouraging/provoking the move to help prep for aggression with Iran while taking out Trump's enemy, or how to enrich the Trump family through some difficult to trace scheme, or all of the above, or none of the above. But it is questionable, and Kusher's advice has been disclaimed in Washington, and now we have Saudi Arabia that is more deeply entrenched in a war footing ready to help the USA fight Iran while a liberalizing/moderating force has been arrested.
Groundwork for the grand distractions when the impeachment hearings begin? I don't know that I would lay too much of this specifically at Trump's feet, because it seems the USA policy toward Saudi Arabia has been messed up for a long time regardless of USA party in control. But how can any of us really know what is going on?
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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I bet Kushner was trolling the Saudis for a bailout of the billion dollar mistake his family made in Manhattan, swamp dweller POS he is.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Breaking News
Michael Flynn and his son have enough evidence against them to be charged by Mueller
Next on the chopping block:
Wilbur Ross
Jeff Sessions
The Kush
And we all know that the corruption starts at the Top
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rincon
climber
Coarsegold
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Lock him up!
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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For those following the Republican's tax plan news, this Fortune Magazine article might well be of interest.
It explains that it's not a big deal to the ultra-wealthy that the top income bracket didn't get lowered, since there are so many other great tax loopholes for them.
http://fortune.com/2017/11/03/trump-gop-tax-plan-loophole/
Did You Catch the Huge Loophole in the GOP Tax Plan? The Rich Sure Did.
The article is summed up nicely with this statement:
The unfortunate truth is that this so-called millionaires’ tax is little more than a talking point developed to assuage public concern about income inequality and a tax plan that could make it worse by substantially boosting the after-tax income of the wealthiest Americans.
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