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Craig Fry
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So Cal.
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I predict a heart attack for Trump
there are many ways for Karl Rove to make that happen
OR!!!!
what about a suicidal Muslim (or illegal alien) Jihadist that does something!!!
(hired by Karl Rove)
That will change so many parameters
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Good luck, Norton!
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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I would never wish that something untoward happen to Donald Drumpf, but what I am going to enjoy very much is watching him as he moves through the five stages as it becomes clear that Hillary Clinton will become the next president.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Has anyonce seen Trump's will? Just in case.
Bin Laden, yeah he had one:
In it, he claims to have about $29 million in personal wealth, most of which he wanted spent "on jihad, for the sake of Allah."
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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James Brennan: You reply reflects the character of someone who created and posted an elaborate fabric of obvious lies about my behaviour during a labour dispute. You lack the integrity to retract them and apologize to me.
No matter.
As for your attempt to dismiss my comments regarding your infantile historical analysis of the causes of WW II, it may be of interest for you to discover that the time honoured way for people to learn things in general is by talking (and listening) to those who have extensive experience in a given subject, as well as reading and viewing other reputable sources of information.
Clearly you are too lazy to do so, or you wouldn't continue to make such simplistic and ignorant assertions about complex historical events.
Ghost: I only saw "Triumph of the Will" once, and I suppose it qualifies as a magnificently produced example of the "purest" form of Nazi propaganda out there.
Where I believe it differs from the "Why We Fight" films is that the Axis outrages depicted were very real, and the Allied ideals espoused in the films were admirable.
As I am sure that you are aware, propaganda has been around from time immemorial, and it can be used as a force for either good or evil. I believe this is what separates these examples from each other.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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So my Facebook news sidebar shows an article titled: "Larry Summers: Donald Trump is a serious threat to American democracy" (link to article below), and I click through to read it.
As FB does at times, the top of the page is simply a picture with a small, sometimes not really relevant, synopsis, and you have to scroll down to find the actual story.
Which I do.
And next is the Top Posts and lo and behold....guess who it comes from... The John Birch Society, I kid you not.
And in it are comments upon comments of loyal Trump fans, or should I use the word ju jour and call the Drumpf Fanboys?
The John Birch society followers are behind Trump. Holy carp, it's like that YouTube video where the guy goes to the hotel in NYC and turns over the mattress and exposes a horrid mass of bug infestation. Bleeechhhk!
Although, I have to wonder that there is always the possibility that the BS post was seeded with comments to get it to the top. I'd like to believe that yes, it is the usual dirty politics and not that our country really is infested with hateful humans.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/01/larry-summers-donald-trump-is-a-serious-threat-to-american-democracy/?tid=sm_fb
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Paul Ryan has put down a line in the sand
The GOP establishment will not allow Trump to be their Republican Nominee
If Trump stays alive(?), he will start to talk about how the GOP is not being fair to him, and they are working against him,
and now he can say the agreement with the GOP is null and void
and then be able to mount a 3rd Party campaign, and he has already 182 delegates, way more than any other GOP
and pyro and CC (and a bunch of others) will be right there with him
3rd Party Yea, Trump can win!!!
I would love for a 3rd party far right wing candidate to let the GOP be extra diversified
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Norton
Social climber
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Craig,
why are you talking third party for Trump?
he is whomping the field, way way ahead in delegates
you don't believe he will be nominee and resort to third party?
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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I say Trump will not be the GOP nominee
I will take a $10 bet on it
Something will happen
of course I am basing this on 100% speculation
pay pal Y.
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Norton
Social climber
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I will take your bet
I bet your $10 that Trump will be the nominee
Paypal good with you when payoff time comes?
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Paul Ryan has put down a line in the sand
The GOP establishment will not allow Trump to be their Republican Nominee
As long as we're exploring crazy scenarios (which actually makes sense because all politics is crazy this year) how about this:
1) Trump picks Chris Christie as his running mate. Not completely absurd because CC has endorsed Trump and Trump says his VP pick will be a "political" person.
2) Bernie Sanders supporters refuse to turn out in November for Hillary Clinton, who is the Democratic nominee.
3) Trump is elected president.
4) Trump does something impeachable early in his presidency--not too hard to believe. The House impeaches him. (As per the quote above Speaker Ryan can't stand Trump.) The Senate then convicts him and he is removed from office. (Senate Majority leader McConnell also can't stand Trump and is already telling Republican Senators up for re-election this year to run ads against him.)
5) Chris Christie who dropped out of the race and looks stupid right now becomes President of the United States.
Remember, you heard it here first :-)
Curt
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Christie was my early favorite as being a real challenge
If he can come back, it would be Huge
and be a problem for the Dems
But Trump?
No
Norton bro
of course I'm serious about our bet
$10 that Trump will not be the GOP nominee
They will have picked someone else for ANY Reason what so ever
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Norton
Social climber
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Craig,
I now take it that you were never serious about the bet offer you made, ok
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Paul Ryan has put down a line in the sand
The GOP establishment will not allow Trump to be their Republican Nominee
This may be your hope, but it is not fact. They have NOT kicked Drumpf off their team(yet, anyway).
Bernie Sanders supporters refuse to turn out in November for Hillary Clinton, who is the Democratic nominee.
Bernie has said that once the nominee is chosen that we all should support that person, and I believe he certainly will be gracious if Hillary is the choice and will pledge his support. He will almost certainly, in his concession speech, remind his supporters to support the party.
And there is a good long wait between nomination and election day. Plenty of time to gain support.
Now, if Hillary was the nominee, and she asked Sanders to VP... those Bernie Babies would surely support the ticket. I don't think she would necessarily choose Sanders, and haven't really thought about who would be a VP choice. But Hillary/Bernie is not a bad idea at all, come to think about it.
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mrtropy
Trad climber
Nor Cal
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Clinton / Bloomberg - Ticket Could be interesting
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Clinton / Bloomberg - Ticket Could be interesting
I bet Clinton will try to distance herself from Wall St. as much as possible.
Curt
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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The Rude Pundit
3/01/2016
New York Times Conservatives Refuse to Blame Republicans for Trump's Rise Last Friday, David Brooks, in his New York Times "column" (if by "column," you mean, "the gurgles of drowning elitism"), sought to find the source of the River Trump that is flooding the Republican areas of the country right now. Brooks locates that lake high in the mountains of what he perceives as a general dismay with politics. "Over the past generation we have seen the rise of a group of people who are against politics," Brooks writes. "These groups — best exemplified by the Tea Party but not exclusive to the right — want to elect people who have no political experience. They want 'outsiders.' They delegitimize compromise and deal-making. They’re willing to trample the customs and rules that give legitimacy to legislative decision-making if it helps them gain power."
The entire column is 99% about Republicans, just Republicans, especially conservative Republicans. But, in what might be a nadir of both-sides-do-it-ism, Brooks never allows that the "cancer" exists more or less exclusively on the right side of the body politic. Look at what he says: "They suffer from a form of political narcissism, in which they don’t accept the legitimacy of other interests and opinions. They don’t recognize restraints. They want total victories for themselves and their doctrine...The antipolitics people elect legislators who have no political skills or experience...
The antipolitics people refuse compromise and so block the legislative process." That motherf*#ker contorts himself like he's attempting auto-analingus. Every single thing in Brooks's list of the politically damned is a description of how Republicans, and Republicans alone, have governed. In the minority in the Senate, they rewrote the rules on the passage of legislation so that filibuster was the default setting, not the extraordinary exception. Republicans got a whole bunch of yahoos and ideologues and evangelicals and other various and sundry c*#k mites elected, legislators for whom "compromise" is the same as "sh#t-eating." And they've attempted at every turn to delegitimize the twice-elected president. Don't f*#king blame the person smoking a joint for burning down the house when there's an as#@&%e with a flamethrower and an empty tank of gasoline standing right f*#king there.
Brooks gets to F*#knut of the Hour by saying, "Trump is the culmination of the trends we have been seeing for the last 30 years: the desire for outsiders; the bashing style of rhetoric that makes conversation impossible; the decline of coherent political parties; the declining importance of policy; the tendency to fight cultural battles and identity wars through political means." Again, almost all of that sh#t is attributable to Republicans, with Democrats winning...what? Gay marriage? And f*#kin' Trump ain't running on opposition to that.
- See more at: http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/#sthash.uveM7BaA.dpuf
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Brooks is a very loyal, if unconvincing, Republican apologist.
Curt
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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cont..
Then, on Sunday, the other New York Times conservative, Ross D#@&%e-hat...Douthat decided that we have Donald Trump because that Barack Obama is such a dick. He wants everyone to recognize "the way that Obama-era trends in liberal politics have helped feed the Trump phenomenon." Obama has pushed the nation to a more authoritarian path because, well, sh#t because he has: "Having once campaigned against his predecessor’s power grabs, the current president has expanded executive authority along almost every dimension: launching wars without congressional approval, claiming the power to assassinate American citizens, and using every available end-around to make domestic policy without any support from Congress."
Leaving out that Obama has put out fewer executive orders than any president since, at least, Franklin Roosevelt (he's issued fewer than one-term presidents Ford, Carter, and Bush I), once again it needs to be said that, as far as domestic policy goes, Obama has had a Congress that, for most of his presidency, has pushed every legislative battle to crisis until, finally, it simply refused to do jacksh#t. Frankly, Obama could have gone far, far further on the domestic front and said, "Suck my balls and take me to the Supreme Court, jagoffs."
Of course, Douthat barely mentions the racism in the equation, in both the opposition to Obama and the rise of Trump. It's easier to say that white working class voters are abandoning the Democratic Party because "Obama has made moves that effectively slam the door on them: His energy policies, his immigration gambits, his gun control push, his shift to offense on same-sex marriage and abortion," not that they're mostly just f*#king racists who are looking for an excuse so they don't have to just say they're racists (although Trump is allowing them to finally go, "Okay, fine, we're just f*#king racists.")
The conservatives of the New York Times are desperately trying to rescue a party and an ideology that are being murdered before their eyes. Brooks and Douthat are denying that what they have believed has led to this moment in American political history. It has to be something else. They couldn't be wrong. Dear God, they couldn't be. - See more at: http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/#sthash.uveM7BaA.dpuf
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