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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Nov 11, 2009 - 03:11am PT
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hey there pat, say, after watching my pup-dog and having a real good laugh, and well needed... i just realized, on more thing to add to your
get well help list:
laughter, which also kind of jolts one out of depression (if it should sneek in)...
course, a good round of laughing is bound to hurt the ol' leg...
but then, for the o l' inner man, a LOT of tension is released that one never realized one had...
and the body can really use that... and for healing as well...
one reason critters use being goofy, as their unknown stress releaser... being that critters don't analyse such things....
so heres wishes you some spontaneous and happy laughter, as we pray for you along this healing journey...
god bless to you, this eve... :)
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Patrick Oliver
Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 11, 2009 - 05:43am PT
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Thanks so much for all the help and suggestions and
thoughts and prayers. They each and all are welcome and
appreciated. Yes I wish I had a loving touch, but I don't
at the moment. More on that another time...
Laughter, yes. I try that. My favorite TV show is "Who's Line
Is It Anyway?" and I search for it. I find it now and then,
but it doesn't seem to be on with any consistency. That does
help. Sometimes I just go to America's funniest home videos. I
doubt they would want my footage of the fall...
By the way, I was exhausted at ten-thirty last night and went
to bed, to some soothing music. I just bought a couple of
CDs on sale, including Dylan's Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid, quite
soft and melodic, and that poignant song about knock knock knocking
on heaven's door... I woke up at about two this a.m., iced the
knot again, and have been writing emails, wide awake. I am
looking forward to my showing of the film. Any kind of little
bit of hope, that I have something to offer in life, is a
help. It's not Dr. Zhivago, but I think it has a nice spirit.
Thank you my dear friends...
Pat
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Patrick Oliver
Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 11, 2009 - 10:43am PT
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Not feeling too bad this morning. Slept (sort of)
from about 11pm to 2am, then up the rest of the night,
just couldn't get comfortable. But now I feel a bit
energized. Taking a hot bath at the moment. I notice
the swelling in the leg has gone down substantially. Jan,
yes, I think I am on the mend. And, by the way, I'll
email a quick-time copy of the film to you, so you don't
have to come here all the way from Japan.
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Patrick Oliver
Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 11, 2009 - 07:13pm PT
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Lots of pain today. I went out to get a guitar (music) book
for my daughter. Just that little bit was a set-back.
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Patrick Oliver
Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 11, 2009 - 11:50pm PT
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I am soooooo tired. Keep nodding off
but can't stay that way. Still a lot
of pain in leg, mostly about four inches
above top of knee cap. Can't really
understand why it would be there.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Nov 12, 2009 - 12:48am PT
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Pat-
I second what Tami has to say. I feel that you are over the crisis stage now, but it's still a long road to recovery. I'm thinking that when you finally are able to sleep, you may need to do it for days at a time to catch up.
Meanwhile I'm wondering about your nutrition. I hope you're taking plenty of vitamins and protein supplements to help mend the muscle. Also I just read that nerves need lots of folic acid and B vitamins, but especially B-12 to heal. It might be worth a try to dose with B-12 to see if that would lesson the pain.
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Patrick Oliver
Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 12, 2009 - 08:55am PT
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Last night I actually slept pretty well. I woke
up a couple times in pain but settled down
enough to drift off again. You are right, Jan,
I think I will need some serious sleep for more than
a few days.
I have been taking a little calcium pill, with magnesium
and D, and also some potassium. It sounds like a good
idea to get some vitamins in me.
I have been going back and appreciating all the posts
by so many thoughtful and caring people. Thank you to
all.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Nov 12, 2009 - 08:04pm PT
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hey there say, pat.... yeahhhhh, a booste in the nutition-line sounds about good, right about now...
:)
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Patrick Oliver
Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 12, 2009 - 09:05pm PT
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Gradually worsening pain all afternoon. Received a call
from Greg Lowe, which greatly lessened the sense of that
pain. I've been holed up here too long. Need to be with
friends. I look forward to the show in Boulder... to
reconnect with good spirits... Hopefully I'll be past
this waking and dozing and waking... and the dumb pain.
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Patrick Oliver
Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 12, 2009 - 10:28pm PT
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i think i know, but i'm not sure
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Patrick Oliver
Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 13, 2009 - 08:51am PT
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I slept pretty well last night, but as Jan
as astutely noted I will need to sleep a lot
to "overcome" all the nights I didn't sleep.
I went to bed last night and wake up this morning
pretty trashed. The leg doesn't hurt as much,
although the area of the knot is still very sore
and puffed out. When I step on my right leg there
is a sharp pain right in the middle of that knot.
But maybe that's just the last thing to heal. Thanks
again for everyone's concern. I feel as though you
are kind of my family.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Nov 13, 2009 - 10:12am PT
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Just checking in on you before I go to bed in this part of the world.
Here's hoping that every night you get a little more sleep.
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Patrick Oliver
Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2009 - 01:45am PT
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I felt pretty good much of the day, but
then the pain returned in a big way, all through
my leg for about four or five hours. If I just lightly
touched the top part of my thigh, up just about where
it connects to my hip, I would get searing pain in my
knee. Monday I see the specialist again and will be
curious about some of these things. Also begin therapy
Monday.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Nov 14, 2009 - 01:54am PT
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hey there say, just checking in, along with jan....
i've had my years of when "no one was there" so i like to help be part of "those that are" when i can, to help cheer someones else on...
:) hopefully, if you think back to those first days, perhaps you've at least got a your eyes on a better trail that is leading somewhere with new hope now...
have a much better night... and good day, then...
:)
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Patrick Oliver
Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2009 - 06:51pm PT
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A whole day without crutches, occasional bad pain but
nothing like yesterday. I think I am on the mend. One thing
for sure, when I walk a little I do get sore later. I know,
"you don't have to get sore about it."
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Curt
Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
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Nov 14, 2009 - 07:25pm PT
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I'm going to bring a good bottle of single malt scotch to Boulder. It will either ease the pain considerably, or you simply won't care anymore.
Curt
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 14, 2009 - 08:18pm PT
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"Monday I see the specialist again and will be
curious about some of these things. Also begin therapy
Monday."
Glad you're getting to see somebody. Sure seems like something is fishy
Peace and good healing
Karl
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Patrick Oliver
Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2009 - 09:17pm PT
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I know what you mean, Karl. It seems very "fishy,"
to use your word, that there should be so much pain,
but then at the same time I'm glad when I learn it
isn't a broken femur and not compartment syndrome, and
so forth... But every part of my leg has been in pain
at one time or another. Today it's my whole ankle and
shin area, and lately my right hip has really been doing
its thing, painwise. It's hard to sit in a chair and hard
to lie down and try to sleep. I think I have found the best
possible position though for lying down. I have a huge pillow
my daughters bought me for my birthday in September, almost
as though they had a premonition, and I simply place it between
my thighs and roll to the left onto my left side. The leg then
lies on the pillow. It's about the best thing I can find.
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Patrick Oliver
Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 16, 2009 - 12:50pm PT
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I'm off to therapy at 1pm today, in a couple hours.
Will report on the experience. Then
to my Dr. and to the specialist both
mid-day Wednesday. I think I am
definitely on the mend, although
if I walk much the leg gets real sore.
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Patrick Oliver
Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 16, 2009 - 06:47pm PT
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A couple of nice ladies worked on my leg, did a lot
of measurements and tests, and determined my front
quadracept (above my knee in front) is pretty messed up,
no strength in it, and everything horribly tight. They
could tell I was somewhat out of line and tweeked me
various ways, then did some kind of special massage to
get the blood moving out of various places in my leg.
I have a bunch of exercises to do, and need to try to
walk with my legs in their normal straight positions again.
That's a little of it.
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