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TrundleBum
Trad climber
Las Vegas
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Nov 19, 2007 - 12:27am PT
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Some was passable
some was total 'Sparkler weed'
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 19, 2007 - 02:26am PT
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Hey Ron, good to see your post. Hope it helps those that are still not sure if they ought to contact me. Many still are. I talked to a guy today that gave me some helpful guidance regarding some of the publications that were about the event.
At the moment I'm piecing together the military history of the plane as well as a few loose ends. Getting closer.
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 20, 2007 - 09:17pm PT
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Trundlebum...please, tell me more. Obviously you have a story or two to tell. Drop me an email.
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Chicken Skinner
Trad climber
Yosemite
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Nov 20, 2007 - 10:21pm PT
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Those pictures look kind of familiar.
Ken
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Nov 21, 2007 - 01:35am PT
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What plane?
I can't wait to hear about this shiz...
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Chicken Skinner
Trad climber
Yosemite
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Nov 21, 2007 - 01:42am PT
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Moi aussi!
Ken
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RDL
Social climber
Silicon Valley
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Nov 27, 2007 - 05:36pm PT
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Hossjulia:
As I recall it was Kodachrome64 which I shot most of the time in Yosemite (warmer), I then had prints made and scanned the prints some 30+ years later to make the digital photos that you saw on-line.
Boy wish I was 21 again, just hiked the Grand Canyon for Thanksgiving (full moon nearly was incredible). My 52 year old muscles are still sore but happy to have hiked the canyon. My arthritic left knee did better than I thought it would and I had a great time camping on Horeshoe Mesa.
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 27, 2007 - 10:28pm PT
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We'll have to compare left knees
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wildone
climber
Where you want to be
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Nov 28, 2007 - 01:59am PT
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RDL! Thanks for stepping up to the plate! Those pictures are incredible!
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 28, 2007 - 04:12am PT
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Hey Rok...yeah, been a little while. Just when things start slowing down, I get contacted by a couple more people that figure into the story. Some from the climbing communitee and some from outside but well versed in other aspects of what went on. I truly am not without information which I'm thankful for.
Drop me a line or a call, we'll play a little catch up.
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 2, 2007 - 01:05am PT
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To give everyone an idea of how this story is panning out. I recently talked to one of the pilot's relatives. Just when I thought that they didn't want to discuss the event that resulted in the loss of a family member, they step forward providing a wealth of information that I didn't know.
And for those that knew Jack Dorn, his family had an image of a mountain carved onto his granite tombstone to show how much he was into mountains and climbing. Very nice.
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Albion
Trad climber
Bristol, UK
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Jan 17, 2008 - 11:57am PT
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Hey Licky
there's a fair few Brit climbers over here on the other side of the pond who follow this thread and cannot wait to read the whole saga..
Is stuff still coming out of the woodwork or are you getting close to publication?
Did you make that trip up to the lake?
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 17, 2008 - 05:59pm PT
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LOL...I love it. Can't wait to hear the story.
People keep contacting me with new info on everything from the pilots to the plane to the investigation. Same with photos. I hear from at least one person each week with more tips. So I continue to sort, research, catalog, and so on. I now have names of all the small towns in Mexico that the smoke traveled through on its way to Lower Merced Pass Lake. Quite a trip with trucks, vans and even fishing boats long before the plane.
A trip up to the lake is planned this spring/summer. So far it will include Ron Lykins (found the wing), Jon Glisky's (one of the two pilots)sister, maybe Jeff Nelson's (other pilot) cousin, and myself. No telling how many might make it by then. I'll keep everyone up to date on the event.
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jiimmy
Boulder climber
san diego
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Jan 17, 2008 - 11:36pm PT
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Heroes shouldnt wind up in jail. Maybe what they did was more greed then heroism. Young people today got plenty of ways to mess themselves up, they dont need to look to old men who got their start in financial security by dealing. Less talented people are always looking for a way to get around the system.
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Risk
Mountain climber
Minkler, CA
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Jan 18, 2008 - 12:10am PT
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During Easter evening, my pack was so heavy that I alternated between walking forward uphill and walking backwards uphill to the trailhead. We scouted it good, but there was no danger. We made our way to the 41 exit, which was also empty, and on to Summerdale for a good night rest finally. The next morning, at Silvertip Lodge (Fishcamp), we feasted on a huge greasy breakfast. Afterwards, as we walked to the parking lot and started to climb into my 66’ VW camper, a kind Fresno Co. Sheriff pulled up along the passenger side. As his squeaky, black, shiny boots stepped to the pavement, the melting and leaking juice of our “lode” dripped and flowed from the van past him with that special “Airplane” aroma. We all acted casual, said hello, closed the doors, and headed down to Fresno for the next step . . . .
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 23, 2008 - 12:47am PT
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Jiiimmy...not much has changed. History repeats itself as we have heard time and time again.
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Rock!...oopsie.
Trad climber
pitch above you
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Jan 23, 2008 - 09:26am PT
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Goddammit, jiimmy. I can't believe somebody wants to jump into this with "won't somebody think of the children?" Stories (and especially histories) are not necessarily about heroes for young people to emulate.
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 9, 2008 - 09:43pm PT
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For those following this saga. Tomorrow I meet with one of the family members of one of the pilots. This site has been very helpful in helping them understand what went on up at the lake after their loss. Everyone's posts, for the most part have provided a little insight into what the event was for others outside of the drug running group.
Let me also add that Jack Dorn's family knew nothing about the plane crash, the dope, or any of the mystery surrounding his death.
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 19, 2008 - 10:21pm PT
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Just spoke with the Park Ranger that took the initial report from Ron Lykins about a wing. He was also one of two that immediately went up to the lake via chopper to find the wing. Amazing memory that some people have after all these years. He told it like he was right there.
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#310
Social climber
Telluride, CO
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Feb 20, 2008 - 07:54am PT
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Licky,
Maybe I don't understand your last entry about the ranger who took the initial report about the wing. I do not need to be in the book or anything. I took the initial report of the crash being found and I called it in to Scott Air Force Base. Shortly after Scott Air Force Base called me back, a lot of other rangers came into work that Sunday night and I was off the case - which was fine by me. There were no helicopeter flights until the next day. The reporting party told me they found the tail of the plane and they had the call numbers from the tail.
I don't remember and never knew a lot of other details about the early days of the investigation. And I told you by phone everything else I knew about the whole episode. I have a very distinct memory of that Sunday afternoon, getting the initial report, calling Scott, etc. and no other ranger was around during that time.
Kathy Green
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