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i-b-goB
Social climber
Nutty
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Shylock from your post...
Can I get a chalk bag, instead of a popcorn!
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JerryA
Mountain climber
Sacramento,CA
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Great climbing movie with outstanding cinematography that appeals for many reasons . Croft and Caldwell helped balance the narrative immensely for me. Jimmy Chin should be joining Mike Hoover's "Solo" with the only climbing films ever nominated for an Academy Award .
What was the rating of the hardest move in the movie ?
Two recent films ,"Ladybird" and "Free Solo" , with Sacramento native connections is a hoot for Central Valley Folks .
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Went in for round 2 last night - still good. I'll rent if I see it again. The theater was still maybe 75% full at the 9pm show. Didn't look like much of a climbing crowd.
Croft made me cringe even more than the first time. He's jealous and flat-out mean and shaming to Alex. I felt bad for Alex. He wants approval and connection with Croft, but Alex just slumps and looks sad at Croft's comments about the cameras, like he's back in his childhood getting ripped by his parents or something. Meanwhile Croft takes the opportunity to brag about his own soloing to the same camera.
I agree completely with Schaefer's comments on the Runout podcast. Alex knew what making that film meant - it was the community, support, friendship and motivation he wanted and needed to pull it all off. I don't think he's beyond needing and enjoying the attention of being a star, but that aspect really seemed to come second.
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WBraun
climber
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It's the Rostrum roof ..... ^^^^
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WBraun
climber
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Croft He's jealous and flat-out mean and shaming to Alex.
I hope this is not true.
That would be so terrible .....
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WBraun
climber
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That footage was from when he did the Excellent Adventure?
Don't know?
But I do know that is a radical free solo doing that roof finish.
There a few people that have free soloed the Rostrum but only Alex has ever done the roof.
Try it sometime with a rope and you'll immediately see why ......
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ionlyski
Trad climber
Polebridge, Montana
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I didn't really get the sense that Croft was being mean to Alex. The footage was a little awkward and Croft is maybe a little awkward guy in person, or on film is probably more accurate. Let's face it, it takes a special "weirdness" to solo at those levels (I would think). But I do agree there was a little bummer factor in the Croft scene.
Then Alex just turns and walks away from Croft and I thought, "hey thats rude, you can't do that to Croft". Then I remembered this is just an awkward movie scene. They're pretending its a natural conversation but its part of a movie script, albeit a loose script. They might have both thought it a little weird; two great giants. "Now Peter you stand over here and Alex walks up to you and you have a conversation about free soloing".
Arne
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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jlp, that's a ridiculous comment, maybe you should go see the movie a third time. Sheesh.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Mill Valley, Ca
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Just listened to the Runout Podcast #7, Free Solo Film and the Sweaty Palm. They talk about their reaction to the film, having just seen it.
One of the tidbits is that Jimmy Chin spent months trying to get approval to use a drone, to no avail. The crew later discovered that once you reach an altitude of 6000' from the Valley floor, you are technically no longer under the jurisdiction of the NPS, so they rented a helicopter and a very expensive "Hollywood camera" for the stunning post climb shot.
It is my hope that one day they release a "Free Solo, Climber Edition" or "Climber's Cut" (vs Director's Cut). I would have no problem at all sitting through hours of uncut footage from multiple angles - and I'm sure I'm knott the only one!
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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It is my hope that one day they release a "Free Solo, Climber Edition" or "Climber's Cut" (vs Director's Cut). I would have no problem at all sitting through hours of uncut footage from multiple angles - and I'm sure I'm knott the only one!
Hear, hear!
With climber and director commentary, too.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Mill Valley, Ca
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This is super! Glad NPS is holding firm on this.
What's funny is that they were reportedly upset about the use of the helicopter but there was nothing they could do about it.
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ionlyski
Trad climber
Polebridge, Montana
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I think they should sell popcorn at the movie in giant chalkbags.
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Rattlesnake Arch
Social climber
Home is where we park it
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 4, 2018 - 11:58am PT
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The crew later discovered that once you reach an altitude of 6000' from the Valley floor, you are technically no longer under the jurisdiction of the NPS, so they rented a helicopter...
Apparently its a grey area...
Some of the best shots were from above the valley rim looking almost straight down. Must have been a super camera.
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Rattlesnake Arch
Social climber
Home is where we park it
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 4, 2018 - 04:08pm PT
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Another good podcast (despite El Cap being located in Yellowstone National Park). Some good Q&A, and no drones were used, according to Alex. Also, Peter Croft and Tommy Caldwell are his heros. Worth listening to.
http://feelinfilm.com/minisode-053-free-solo-alex-honnold/
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
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Just saw the movie. Quite amazing.
I got into treating SpecOps for a while. I recognized the wiring.
I didn’t get that Croft was awkward. He seemed authentically supportive.
It’s at some level hard to get my head around. I was wondering who felt most tweaked by the crux scenes - the climbers or non-climbers there.
No matter how effing incredible Honnold’s climbing is, if he chooses to continue slicing it so close to the bone, he will get the chop. It does seem he’s clear and OK about that.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Hmmm- I'll have to disagree with JLP on Croft. I didn't get that feeling at all.
What I saw was a person who views soloing as a deeply personal and totally solitary venture.
The "awkwardness" ( to me) seemed to stem from Croft being very uncomfortable with the film crew's presence and the inevitable pressure ( as much as they try to make it no-pressure... there was) - for Alex to succeed . There was, perhaps, a hint of disapproval over Alex's willingness to film such a dangerous venture. I sure didn't get any" jealousy" or " mean" vibes.
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Aeriq
Social climber
Location: It's a MisterE
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JLP is so wrong it is laughable.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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My interpretation of the Croft scene was that he was super uncomfortable with the media attention on many levels. Not the least of which being that Alex is a super likable guy and soloing El cap for work can get you seriously killed. Think Al Rouse, Scott Fisher, Rob Hall, Uli Steck, and many, many, many other sponsored climbers making bad decisions to fulfill sponsors expectations. He told Alex several times you don't have to do this.
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