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jstan
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Aug 10, 2016 - 01:28pm PT
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A couple of comments regarding Trump's claiming his 2nd amendment statement was not interpreted correctly; What is real here?
1. Our interpretation probably should not be our main concern. Our principle concern should be how his statement is interpreted by wigged out freaks carrying guns. We know there are many.
2. If Hillary's security detail consisted of N agents, as of today we can expect there are now 2N.
3. Her intensified security may well begin to involve bullet proof glass screens and maybe even something as extreme as a Popemobile. The access the public has to her person will have to decrease.
4. The opposition will charge that this decrease is caused entirely by her personal aversion to contact with us.
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Norton
Social climber
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Aug 10, 2016 - 01:44pm PT
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well, Donald says that what he said about the 2nd Amendment is actually a good thing
because it is going to help him in this election
do you guys agree with him that his poll numbers will go up now?
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Studly
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WA
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Aug 10, 2016 - 01:46pm PT
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Discussing politics when the election is rigged is kind of like discussing poker strategy when the deck is stacked. Fruitless and idiotic.
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healyje
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Portland, Oregon
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Aug 10, 2016 - 01:49pm PT
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Discussing rigged elections is fruitless and idiotic.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Aug 10, 2016 - 02:23pm PT
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EdwardT AKA Sketch
Trad climber
Retired
Aug 10, 2016 - 10:58am PT
Now I've got Craig Fry, known liar and thief, dry-humping my leg.
Let see, I make a comment about a post, sketch has a temper tantrum and starts name calling with some lies and smears
Then when we call him out for his smear post,
he says it's me that's having a temper tantrum!!
That's called Projection folks
all the right wingers depend on it for every time they think,
"I don't like what those people are doing, cause that's what I'm doing inside my brain, and I know it's Very Very Bad"
Blame everyone else for your short comings!
It's a sign of a lack of empathy
The Right wingers have dispelled empathy from our list of virtues, for them it's survival of the fittest, must kill my enemy before he kills me!
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Cragar
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MSLA - MT
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Aug 10, 2016 - 02:43pm PT
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I'm enjoying exploring rifle-craft in the name of being a more confident big game hunter.
That's cool n'all but how about the 'Art of the Hunt'? It ain't about the gun at all, or bow for that matter...Where you from, Connecticut?
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Bushman
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The state of quantum flux
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Aug 10, 2016 - 02:44pm PT
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I know that I post ridiculous semi humorous (at least to me ) quips and poems just to try and interject some humor into the dry, serious, and sometimes hostile sounding arguments that go on in the politics threads.
I get it that no one takes me seriously, I'm not too concerned about that.
My family leans to the liberal end of the spectrum so I'm used to more open-minded, civilized, and acceptance oriented politics conversations. We love our country and are concerned about national security, our environment, jobs, and the economy like most people. When I get around people of a more conservative bent, the political conversations are more fearful, sometimes blustery, often hostile, and typically racist. I'm not making this up, I've heard it all my life.
Have politics gotten way uglier or is it just that the ugliness has been more incited in this election?
Is my next statement an honest indication of attitudes held by white working class conservatives in this country?
After Obama was elected, during a sporting event I overheard an average white middle aged housewife excalaim to her group of friends, "One of you guys ought to shoot that (N word) and get him out of the White House, he's ruining everything. If any one of you had the balls you would do what was right!" Then they just went casually about eating their meal. They were acquaintances and I slunk away in cowardly horror, wondering that half of America would have to be rounded up by the Secret Service, tried and sent to prison for making death threats against our president.
So many conservatives both privately and publicly refused to acknowledge his presidency, always referring to him as Obama, or Mr. Obama, never President Obama. The only words I can summon about this are; disrespectful, infantile, and blatantly racist.
Don't play the race card some would say. This country is full of some ugly sh#t, nut bars, crazy people, and a hell of a lot of good people as well. Progressiveness is about moving forward. I guess things were worse back in the early 60s and before. I hate to see us (as a nation) sliding back into the revolting quagmire of the swamp people that many of us evolved from.
Go ahead and ignore this post, or refute it, I don't care. It would be interesting though, to see if anyone else here was willing to own it.
-bushman
(Sorry about all the edits, I am at work so my iPhone voice recognition is not so good)
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EdwardT
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Retired
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Aug 10, 2016 - 03:47pm PT
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
Aug 10, 2016 - 11:07am PT
Yes
it's time for some leg humping the Daddy of all Leg Humpers
How many posts on the GCC thread? 1000s
All BS leg humping and personal attacks against the science crowd.
and known liar about other posters
he will just make up any lie to throw sh#t back at his foes
I'm a thief now??
BS, and blatant LIE
Prove it d#@&%e bag
Prove I lied and didn't say I was wrong after I found out the truth.
You lie about me lying.
Being wrong about something is not a lie.
Then...
Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
Aug 10, 2016 - 02:23pm PT
Let see, I make a comment about a post, sketch has a temper tantrum and starts name calling with some lies and smears
Then when we call him out for his smear post,
he says it's me that's having a temper tantrum!!
That's called Projection folks
all the right wingers depend on it for every time they think,
"I don't like what those people are doing, cause that's what I'm doing inside my brain, and I know it's Very Very Bad"
Blame everyone else for your short comings!
It's a sign of a lack of empathy
The Right wingers have dispelled empathy from our list of virtues, for them it's survival of the fittest, must kill my enemy before he kills me!
You do go on.
<chortle>
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Aug 10, 2016 - 03:48pm PT
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That's cool n'all but how about the 'Art of the Hunt'? It ain't about the gun at all, or bow for that matter...Where you from, Connecticut?
I already have the art of the hunt part down, but thanks for asking. Like I said, I'm enjoying learning about the art of the rifle.
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EdwardT
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Retired
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Aug 10, 2016 - 04:25pm PT
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Bushman - Interesting post. Since President Obama took office I've read/heard similar stories... open racism about our Commander-In-Chief... about my President. The thing is it's always by a liberal, on an internet forum. I've never heard anything remotely like your story from someone I in real life. Just from unknown internet personalities.
Clearly, President Obama has had to deal with a different kind of hate than any of his predecessors.
But I wonder about the validity of your story. An out of the blue anecdote, unrelated to any recent discussions. It seems more like colorful rhetoric, intended to stir the pot, than about life in America.
I apologize if my questioning your story offends. It just seems that modern-day racism is more prevalent among internet liberals than in my comparatively harmonious life.
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Bob D'A
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Taos, NM
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 10, 2016 - 04:28pm PT
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EdwardT is so right, especially when 72 percent of polled republicans still think Obama was not born in America.
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EdwardT
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Retired
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Aug 10, 2016 - 04:35pm PT
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EdwardT is so right, especially when 72 percent of polled republicans still think Obama was not born in America.
Let's see that poll.
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Splater
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Grey Matter
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Aug 10, 2016 - 04:41pm PT
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sketchtroll,
you are quite mistaken, as usual.
The attitude of the moron right wing talk faux news birther swiftbooter bengazi denier witchhunt neocon types is a continuing part of the population. The modern flavor didn't start under Obama, maybe under Goldwater, and accelerated with Reagun and the growth of right wing media. There are likely less of these types now than we had 25 years ago, but now they add the racist card with Obama that they didn't have with Clinton.
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EdwardT
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Aug 10, 2016 - 04:46pm PT
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sketchtroll,
you are quite mistaken, as usual.
The attitude of the moron right wing talk faux news birther swiftbooter bengazi denier witchhunt neocon types is a continuing part of the population
Good stuff, Splater.
Maybe you could tell about your own "my relatives are racists" experience.
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Aug 10, 2016 - 04:54pm PT
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It might seem difficult for a supposedly interested listener to miss the reporting of what some of the Trump supporters spew at rallies. But then again, the same types have very selective hearing.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Aug 10, 2016 - 05:22pm PT
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8 months ago = "at present" 😆
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Aug 10, 2016 - 05:28pm PT
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Hey Escopeta;
I would like to talk with you.
10-4 Stand by.
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Norton
Social climber
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Aug 10, 2016 - 05:29pm PT
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Edward,, yes that looks like the most recent poll, but you can go ahead and keep looking
try bing, yahoo and google, then report back
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jstan
climber
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Aug 10, 2016 - 05:41pm PT
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
Aug 10, 2016 - 04:35pm PT
EdwardT is so right, especially when 72 percent of polled republicans still think Obama was not born in America.
Let's see that poll.
Took a less than a minute’s research to find a source for the 72%. Has this kind of thing been happening to you for a long time? Could become limiting.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/291059-poll-majority-of-republicans-still-doubt-obamas
The poll found that 72 percent of registered Republican voters hold doubts about the president's citizenship.
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