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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Apr 27, 2016 - 12:19pm PT
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The Jan Davis Memorial Jump Day?
Frank Gambalie Triathlon?
You're so cool.
Rocky the Squirrel Fest.
Sponsored by Boris and Natasha Industries.
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snakefoot
climber
Nor Cal
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Apr 27, 2016 - 12:30pm PT
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hey flip, just cant stay away can you?
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Lurkingtard
climber
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Apr 27, 2016 - 12:51pm PT
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hey flip, just cant stay away can you?
Kinda like herpies.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Apr 27, 2016 - 04:36pm PT
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Go do what you love, squishy brains.
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Lurkingtard
climber
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Apr 27, 2016 - 04:51pm PT
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Suck a tailpipe, sh#t for brains.
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snakefoot
climber
Nor Cal
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Apr 27, 2016 - 04:51pm PT
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flipper, it is with great fondness that we can follow your pathologic personality disorder, childish writings and the unsubstantiated attitude on this topic. off your meds again?
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Mike Honcho
Trad climber
Glenwood Springs, CO
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Apr 27, 2016 - 06:05pm PT
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Now, at least in non-wingsuit BASE, it can be pretty safe.
"Pretty safe" is a ridiculous thing to think or say about any BASE jump(except maybe El Cap). My Wife and I jump exclusively without wingsuits and usually slider down and EVERY jump is sh#t your pants dangerous. You do everything you can to stack the deck in your favor and with a lot of skill and smarts one can be pretty confident in their abilities to handle a problem. But not a single "pretty safe" thing about any of it, even with modern gear..
You did add that there are exceptions, but those are a handful of excptions at best.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Apr 27, 2016 - 09:42pm PT
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Mike,
You are a boss honcho. It's cool to do scary, dangerous, rowdy stuff. No shame in that game.
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 28, 2016 - 08:49pm PT
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Wow, Jim, that was great! Love it. Thanks.
BAd
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Sula
Trad climber
Pennsylvania
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Apr 28, 2016 - 10:19pm PT
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Good video.
At around 3:50, the two jumpers enter a "downplane" formation. At around 4:00 you can see their shadow against the stadium, showing the 2-canopy formation.
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mcreel
climber
Barcelona
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Apr 28, 2016 - 10:49pm PT
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From my school days, I kind of recall that it's a no no to let the flag touch the ground.
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overwatch
climber
Arizona
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Apr 29, 2016 - 07:52am PT
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YYEEOOWWP! must be such a rush to drop into a stadium full of peeps like that.
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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May 18, 2016 - 12:45pm PT
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"Pretty safe" is a ridiculous thing to think or say about any BASE jump(except maybe El Cap). My Wife and I jump exclusively without wingsuits and usually slider down and EVERY jump is sh#t your pants dangerous. You do everything you can to stack the deck in your favor and with a lot of skill and smarts one can be pretty confident in their abilities to handle a problem. But not a single "pretty safe" thing about any of it, even with modern gear..
Really? Sh#t your pants? Maybe you should take up something else. I was pretty scared on my first ten or so BASE jumps, but after that I became a good student and never felt out of my comfort zone. If I was, I would often just climb or walk down to jump a better day. I backed off of a ton of jumps, even if my friends went ahead and did it. We all evaluate risk a little differently. Like I said, at the Petronas Towers, there were 8000 jumps done by experienced jumpers without serious incident. It has never been safer.
Perhaps it is your choice of objects. I know this guy on Facebook. He seems to only jump the same 250 foot microwave tower. Over and over and over. You need to branch out and get experience with a wide variety of objects.
Bigger objects are much more fun, but you need to know how to fly your body. Don't tell me that you guys just toss the second you leave the object. If you push off HARD, or have the room to run off, by 3 seconds you are pretty far from the object and can turn around if you have a 180.
I see a lot of that jump and toss going on these days.
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Topic Author's Reply - May 18, 2016 - 02:18pm PT
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BASE104 said: Like I said, at the Petronas Towers, there were 8000 jumps done by experienced jumpers without serious incident. It has never been safer.
Nice to hear! Like so much else in the news, bad news gets the most press. It seems to me that jumping big cliffs with a wingsuit and tracking clear would be pretty reasonable, as those 8,000+ jumps you mentions suggests.
BAd
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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May 18, 2016 - 04:30pm PT
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Jim... Good Videos of those SEALS.
Bad Ass to the Bone.
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The guy above
climber
Across the pond
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May 19, 2016 - 05:58am PT
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There's a video just came out with an honest account around base jumping and jumper's attitudes and outlook on the risks we take.
It doesn't back anyone's points of view, and people from all sides of the fence may try and use it to "prove" they are right, but it's worth posting up for what it is, a beautifully made and raw view on the people who choses to get off their coach and do something they love, with the people they love.
http://vimeo.com/167054481
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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May 19, 2016 - 08:09am PT
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Thanks for sharing that vid.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Jun 28, 2016 - 05:13pm PT
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Bumping this thread for discussion and thoughts due to the recent accident.
Again I'm in support of people doing what they want. But really the risk in BASE is at another level compared to climbing. Doesn't mean people shouldn't do it IMO, but they should be realistic about the risk.
If I was offered a ride on a rocket to outer space I'd jump at the chance, but understand the risk is WAY more than an airplane flight. But if the experience is worth it...
Establishing new exits and close proximity wing suit flights really increases the risk. again I just hope people are being realistic.
As I mentioned previously my friends were getting into BASE in the mid 90s right about the time I got married. My then fiancé asked me to not BASE and I honored that request. I'm kind of lucky because it made the decision easy for me. I had planned to at least try it. And knowing myself it would have been tough to do just one and walk away. But I also think I would have kept it to the relatively safe jumps, because I started hearing about accidents as soon as the people I knew started doing it, and the accidents were all due to adding complexity or doing something out of the ordinary. That is if base can ever be considered ordinary.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Jun 28, 2016 - 05:23pm PT
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Risky business. I've lost 2 close friends in accidents. The tragic effect on their family, even years later, is hard to measure.
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