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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 26, 2013 - 11:24pm PT
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LOVED THAT FINGER!
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F10
Trad climber
Bishop
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Aug 26, 2013 - 11:27pm PT
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Great weather and climbing in Tuolumne today,
Hopefully some headway is being made and everyone is safe
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John M
climber
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Aug 26, 2013 - 11:27pm PT
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LOVED THAT FINGER!
LOL.. yep.. that was funny.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 26, 2013 - 11:45pm PT
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From my conversation with the Rev just moments ago.
Matt Chapman's garage is gone, with all his tools, and so it the barn.
The fire burned right up to Ferretti Road for about a mile but they stopped it there, not dead-stopped, though. There was an outbreak up the hill in one spot there that they managed to "beat down."
He drove out on Ferretti yesterday. I think he was checking Denny's house. The view from Ferretti is one of "complete devastation as far as the eye can see."
He spoke with Bill Nickell (two "L's", neebee, like in gill, silly) and he was down the other day but now he's up in spirits and that's our Bill, who was never a quitter.
Godspeed everyone, especially the tired combatants in this duel.
the Rev said seven percent containment on this big a fire is nada, and he's right. We need some precipitation and I need some sleep.
I asked him to compare the Complex fire in '87 to this one. "Much much worse."
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Dapper Dan
Trad climber
Menlo Park
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Aug 27, 2013 - 12:02am PT
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In that MODIS fire map , what is the big unburned area in the middle of all the yellow mean ?
just an area the fire spared ?
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Aug 27, 2013 - 12:46am PT
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hey there say, mouse, thanks for sharing... as to matt... they knew the house made it through, so my folks told me, but we did not
know about the shed or barn... thank you for sharing...
say, does 'the rev' know matt... ?
or did he hear from double-l nickells, :)
just curious --yeah, i know... but i LIVE with cats... and you KNOWw what they say about cats... *curiousity does not kill cats, by the way, though, as long as they have good owners... :)
but yeah, they are curious... :)
and thus, taught it to me, :))
well, night all, got some past-gift stuff i been working on...
ps: for later down the roadL
say, if anyone needs anything i can share, later, for fund raising, etc, i will try to do whatever i can...
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Aug 27, 2013 - 12:52am PT
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there is a reasonable chance your friends' cabins may be safe, even if the fire overburned it, similar to what happened at Camp Mather.
QITNL, Thanks... That is exactly what many of us former T.M. & Ahwahnee employees are hoping for.......
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 27, 2013 - 03:23am PT
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I could only sleep a little. I am very keyed-up over this.
1573 is the Sunset Inn.
thank you thank you thank you
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Aug 27, 2013 - 06:08am PT
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won't jump the merced, at least from briceburg to red bud, all logged out for yosemite railroad back when grandpa had his teeth, easy to start grass back fires that will race up the hill,
might go around it on the south side, but winds would have to be weird,
hate to see The Bug get torched, but that would be 5 days away,
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Aug 27, 2013 - 10:58am PT
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In that MODIS fire map , what is the big unburned area in the middle of all the yellow mean ? You can read the legend at the top left of the MODIS Google Earth maps.
Yellow has burned WITHIN the time frame of 6 days ago up to the last 24 hours. All the orange and red is within the last 24 hours.
Clint: There's good road to White Wolf, and some old rough roads near it. The original Tioga road went through White Wolf and is pretty decent for a ways below the store. I'm sure they'll make a strong stand there. The fire could bypass WW in the canyon.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Aug 27, 2013 - 11:07am PT
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The morning MODIS image:
Yesterday about the same time for reference
Moving NE up the Clavey River and past Eleanor and Cherry Lakes.
Continuing to move east towards White Wolf.
Now burning right up to the Big Oak Flat entrance.
It's easy to get fooled. The RED doesn't mean burning hottest, just that it's active within the last 6 hours.
Note the increasing area in the center with no squares. This burned more than 6 days ago.
It looks as if the actual amount of area burning in the last 6 hours has gone down. Indicating it may not be growing outward as fast as yesterday.
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mtnyoung
Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
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Aug 27, 2013 - 11:15am PT
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The smoke here this morning is also definitely the worst it's been yet. Here's looking up the driveway at 8:00 a.m.
And sorry Clint, but I'll take your "bet" (which I know is one you want to lose): I don't think Twain Harte or Tuolumne are going to go up (and for what it's worth, our house is significantly northeast of Highway 108; there are hundreds of homes between us and the fire). Yes, in a worst-case scenario it could happen. Yes, we've got a family plan for evacuation. But I don't think it will go there.
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mtnyoung
Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
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Aug 27, 2013 - 11:17am PT
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And Fred, thank you so much for posting and reposting the updated maps. Those maps are great, and it's so nice to see them together with other information all on one thread. I've always maintained that Supertopo can be a great news source :) :)
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Chewybacca
Trad climber
Montana, Whitefish
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Aug 27, 2013 - 11:27am PT
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My heart is with all you folks in the path of this monster. I can only imagine the stress you are going through.
And thanks for all the timely information. I'm getting better info from this thread than from the news.
Coincidentally the '87 fire was the last fire incident I worked on. Switched to trail construction and reforestation after that.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Aug 27, 2013 - 11:33am PT
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Brad, I'm thinking of you and your family, as well as all the others I don't know. I'm pleased to be providing useful information. Some day my canyon will burn. Trying to pay it forward a little bit.
Hope to see you in 3 weeks time.
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mtnyoung
Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
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Aug 27, 2013 - 11:41am PT
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Hope to see you in 3 weeks time.
Yes, that would be nice, especially if this thing is "in the rear-view mirror."
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Melissa
Gym climber
berkeley, ca
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Aug 27, 2013 - 11:42am PT
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Note to you locals who may have friends who lost their homes or in case someone who did sees this thread...
I lost my home to fire a few years ago. It's a big pain to deal with insurance, and I felt like there was a lot to learn quickly before the insurance-provided clean-up crews made it difficult to make our maximum claim. I was really grateful at the time for the advice of total and near-total strangers who'd been through it, and I want to offer to be one of those folks for anyone who needs it now. Feel free to e-mail me at the address linked to my Supertopo account.
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aspendougy
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Aug 27, 2013 - 12:41pm PT
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Dear Timid Tightrope:
My family owns a cabin at Aspen Valley, and if you hear anything more about the White Wolf/Aspen Valley portion of the fire, please let me know.
Sincerely,
Douglas Gray
aspendougy@gmail.com
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Aug 27, 2013 - 01:03pm PT
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thanks, melissa
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SuperTopo on the Web
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fire overruns White Wolf and cuts off 120 between Crane Flat and Tuolumne Meadows. This makes it difficult to get crews / pumper trucks to the east side of the blockage. But fuels and uphills run out in that area
Let us know!