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FRUMY
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Bishop,CA
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? why bring up a losing argument.
The Federalist won the argument the anti federalist lost the argument.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Yeah Joe, looks like there's going to be a waiting period on your hoped for waiting period.
I have to wonder why so many liberals wish to remain in a country with 85M people so prepared and eager to kill children. I just don't get it.
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jstan
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http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/08/08/v-fullstory/3550483/woman-shot-to-death-in-south-miami.html
Posted on Thursday, 08.08.13
South Miami man kills wife, posts photo of bloody body, then turns himself in to police
BY DAVID OVALLE AND DANIEL DUCASSI
DOVALLE@MIAMIHERALD.COM
Derek Medina’s life was open to the world.
On YouTube, the 31-year-old South Miami man posted scores of videos of himself enjoying sports.
He authored six online books, with long-winded titles about spirituality, saving the world and hunting ghosts. Medina snapped photos of his arm tattoos, meals, boating trips and drinks poolside with his wife.
But on Thursday, Medina shocked South Florida by making one last announcement on Facebook: that he had shot and killed his wife before posting a photo of her twisted, bloodied body lying on a linoleum floor.
“I’m going to prison or death sentence for killing my wife. Love you guys. Miss you guys. Take care. Facebook people you’ll see me in the news,” Medina wrote in a Facebook post that remained public for hours Thursday evening before the site removed his profile page at the request of police.
Even in a world accustomed to intimate details of people’s lives plastered on social media, Medina’s posts — which went viral — were shocking.
Medina walked into the South Miami police station around noon Thursday, then spent the evening speaking with homicide detectives about what led up to the shooting death of his wife, Jennifer Alfonso, 26.
Investigators, armed with a search warrant, began documenting the crime scene inside the couple’s townhouse at 5555 SW 67th Ave., then charged Medina with first-degree murder late Thursday.
Alfonso’s 10-year-old daughter from a previous relationship was upstairs at the time of the killing, but was unharmed. Officers quickly escorted her out of the home, with a blanket wrapped around her, after finding Alfonso’s body.
Medina is likely to claim self-defense.
His father, Derek Medina Sr., told reporters his son killed Alfonso only after she brandished a knife. In the younger Medina’s Facebook post, he did not mention a knife, but wrote: “My wife was punching me and I’m not going to stand anymore with the abuse so I did what I did. Hope u understand me.”
But according to an arrest report, Medina admitted to investigators he got into an argument with Alfonso. The report said he went upstairs, fished his pistol from a closet and pointed it at Alfonso.
Alfonso yelled she was “leaving him,” according to the report by Detective Jonathan Grossman. Then, Medina — still brandishing the weapon — followed her downstairs to the kitchen, where she grabbed a knife.
Medina said he disarmed Alfonso, put the knife in the drawer, then shot her several times after she began punching and kicking him, the report said.
The photo Medina posted on Facebook shows Alfonso, wearing all black and pink socks, on her knees, twisted backward in a bloody heap.
Alfonso’s former boss at a West Miami-Dade Denny’s told the Miami Herald that the husband was extremely jealous and had hit Alfonso in the past.
“She would be bruised up,” said Amada Cooper, who described Medina as a controlling husband who tried to force her to quit her job as a server because he didn’t want her working nights.
After several violent episodes, another co-worker implored Alfonso to leave him. “He would always come back, begging her … come back,” said Cathy LaBella. “She would say he was going to change. She was in love with him.”
Medina and Alfonso initially married in early 2010 after dating only a few months. The marriage was stormy and friends said he would often kick her out. The two always got back together, however.
They divorced in early 2012, then remarried a few months later, records show. Cooper said the two fought often because Medina, most recently a property manager at a posh Coral Gables condo building, could not hold a job for more than a few months.
“He wouldn’t even let her talk on the phone,” Cooper said. “He always waited for her outside. One time, he went storming in, looking for her, telling her to get outside.”
Another friend, who did not want his name used, said Medina once threatened to kill him and another pal on Facebook after deciding “they weren’t real friends.”
He also recalled that Medina, during one of his break-ups with Alfonso, had angrily blasted the young woman on his Facebook page.
At Denny’s, where she worked as a server, Alfonso was known as a dependable worker with a loyal customer base, who worked the graveyard shift to care for her daughter.
“She was a beautiful person,” LaBella said. “Her daughter was her pride and joy.”
She had a quirky personality and loved anything that had to do with ghosts, aliens and the supernatural. She boasted a dark sense of humor and would often utter her catchphrase “Sasquatch” after long nights on the graveyard shift.
“She would just blurt it out. That was her release. She used that phrase a lot,” remembered a co-worker, Tina, who asked that her last name not be used.
As for Medina, who also shared a love of ghosts, his eccentricities were proudly on display online.
He had appeared as an extra on the Miami television crime drama Burn Notice, which he touted on his Facebook page.
Medina was an avid poster of YouTube videos, chronicling his leisure time: pick-up basketball, driving golf balls, sitting in the cheap seats at Miami Heat games, boating, playing the Call of Duty video game. His account had 143 videos.
He was also a prolific author of self-published e-books with long-winded titles: How a Judgmental and Selfish Attitude is Destroying the World We Live Because the World is Vanishing Our Eyes.
A blurb on the back cover of that book notes: “the author has formed his own ghost hunting team and has worked several cases.”
Another book, which centers on ghost hunting, says the author’s wife was attacked by a ghost during a New York trip.
“The author can relate to the world of victims who have been attacked by evil spirits,” the website states.
He dedicated one 11-chapter book, published in February 2013, to his wife: How I Saved Someone’s Life and Marriage and Family Problems Thru Communication .
On his public Facebook account, Medina had 164 friends. His post on Alfonso’s killing was shared by more than 100 people on the networking site before Facebook shut down the account.
A Facebook spokesman said the website does not comment on law enforcement investigations.
“The content was removed via our own processes,” the spokesman said. “The content was reported to us, and then we took action on the profile — removing the content and disabling the profile, and we reached out to law enforcement. We take action on all content that violates our terms, which are clearly laid out on our site.”
Tina, the former Denny’s co-worker, said she was outraged when she logged on Thursday and saw Medina had posted the photo to Alfonso’s Facebook page.
“He knew what he did was wrong,” she said. “He’s a monster.”
Stunned friends began commenting on Medina’s admission. “WHAT??????” said one woman, who later “tagged” her own friend in the death-scene photo. “That is my friend.”
Her tag received three “likes” on Facebook.
People have long been implicating themselves in wrongdoing through social media, said Lee Rainey, the director of the Pew Research Center’s Internet & American Life Project, although Medina’s case was a particularly gruesome example.
“Social media runs the spectrum, from the most noble and altruistic loving act to the most heinous,” Rainey said. “This is just another showing of how people integrate social media into every dimension of the human experience.”
The following reporters contributed to this story: Maria Perez and Melissa Sanchez of El Nuevo Herald and Benjamin S. Brasch Douglas Hanks, Cory Nightingale, Glenda Ortega, Hannah Sampson and Luisa Yanez of the Miami Herald. Miami Herald researcher Monika Leal also contributed to this report.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Medina said he disarmed Alfonso, put the knife in the drawer, then shot her several times after she began punching and kicking him, the report said.
Even assuming this is true (which is not likely)
Having disarmed his wife he clearly had the option of walking (running) out the door.
But oh no, he had the quick and easy answer tucked away in the upstairs closet.
Or if his claim is not true, is it Alfonso's fault that she DIDN't run upstairs, get the gun and blow him away in self defense? After all aren't guns in the home specifically for self defense?
EDIT: looks as if Medina was one of the thousands of Americans prepared and eager to use guns to settle a marital dispute.
There are 94.5 guns per 100 people in the US
yes ONLY 34% of Americans own guns. So on average, every gun owner has 3 guns.
I'd better hurry out to the next gun show and stock up my arsenal. I don't have 3 guns yet.
more guns are certainly the answer to our national violent streak.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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It would have taken a hell of a long waiting period to have made any difference in that case.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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So Chaz,
what's your idea to reduce the +30K gun deaths each year in the US?
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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I'm doing my part. I haven't killed anybody.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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righhhttt…..good answer. very insightful and productive.
Just as long as you keep on not killing anybody.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Is that it? 30K?
Gee, and you still can't swing a dead cat without hitting a "stupid American".
Clearly the proper people are not getting shot!
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Aug 10, 2013 - 07:08pm PT
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Most of you might remember a certain New York newspaper that made national headlines for publishing the names and addresses of gun-permit owners.
Gun owners were outraged and those who had information published felt threatened. Inevitably one owner’s house was broken into by burglars and though his guns were thankfully locked in a gun safe, the safe and house were damaged during the incident.
It’s been a long time coming, but finally, according to the Rockland Times, editor Caryn McBride has been fired along with 17 other journalists working at Journal News.
Journal News came under heavy criticism after their 2012 decision to publish the names and addresses of all gun owners, but no repercussions ever occurred. Now the Times reports that McBride had called the Clarkstown Police Department to notify them of complaints and angry phone calls after the newspaper published the map.
Though the editor felt threatened by the complaints, police didn’t believe there was enough to warrant an arrest and/or police protection. Many responded to the newspaper’s actions by publishing their own, “Where are the Journal News employees in your neighborhood?” This prompted the staff to hire armed security guards.
Quite a load of hypocrites in our book. How is it fair to hire armed security guards for yourself (under no credible threats) but gun owners can’t protect themselves with firearms in their own home. Looks like after a long period we finally have some closure to this terrible act by Journal News. Hopefully these media contributors have learned a lesson about respecting privacy and the Second Amendment.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Aug 10, 2013 - 10:14pm PT
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I would wager most of those good sheeple don't even know what the Bill of Rights is.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Aug 11, 2013 - 04:57pm PT
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Yeah she can handle a shotgun, which is okay by me, but it's pretty redneck blasting all that lead and launching all those spent shells into the stream there.
Now this teenager is a real pro, and on her way to a great career...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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TradEddie
Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
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Aug 11, 2013 - 04:57pm PT
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This gal on the other hand, knows how to handle a shotgun.
Were any of those shots at more that 20 yards? Most were less than 10, hardly impressive, but it does look like a boatload of fun.
Still waiting for Madbolter's libertarian constitutional explanation why right to bear arms cannot be restricted in any way even when it infringes the equal rights of others, when all other rights are routinely limited?
What happened to the freedom of the press, how dare gun nuts complain when a newspaper posts public information? Hypocrites, the only rights they care about are their own. That's fascism.
TE
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Aug 11, 2013 - 07:53pm PT
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Were any of those shots at more that 20 yards? Most were less than 10,
Most real combat shooting situations happen at ranges of under six yards.
Still, The most impressive little girl I ever shot with was Kim Rhode.
At the time she was about the same age. She'd be playing with her Barbie's until it was her turn on the Skeet field, pick up a Perazzi that was as long as she was tall, clean the station, put her gun back in the rack and go back to playing with her dolls in the dirt till it was her turn again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Rhode
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TradEddie
Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
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Aug 11, 2013 - 08:21pm PT
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Most real combat shooting situations happen at ranges of under six yards.
And there's still nothing impressive about shooting a stationary steel pig at ten yards with a shotgun, especially when the pig isn't armed. It is however a good demonstration of how appropriate a shotgun is for the purpose of home defense, and how completely inappropriate a 30-shot semi-automatic "modern sporting" rifle is.
Still waiting Madbolter.
TE
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Aug 12, 2013 - 11:25am PT
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especially when the pig isn't armed
Clearly, somebody experienced with pigs.
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