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Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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May 23, 2012 - 04:31pm PT
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What happens on Everest stays on Everest.
Sort of......
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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May 23, 2012 - 04:56pm PT
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The fees need to be upped.
Maybe a $1K deposit per oxygen bottle return.
Instead of $10K peak fee add on a $15K school and orphan's fund.
And summiteer limits and mandatory turn around times enforced by strict law.
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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May 23, 2012 - 05:05pm PT
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One of the good things about climbing, though, is that it doesn't have a lot of regulations. We wouldn't want it to be like scuba diving or skydiving. These commercial activities aren't a part of climbing, though.
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
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May 23, 2012 - 05:10pm PT
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While not running for office, 4, 4, 5 will save a lot of lives. Or vet those who should not be on the mountain.
445!!!!
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zBrown
Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
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May 23, 2012 - 05:23pm PT
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Be patient, the famous mountain will continue to shrink and will become less and less desirable as a destination of last resort.
The world's tallest mountain, Everest is to be re-measured after a recent survey suggested the summit is getting smaller because of global warming. ... a Chinese climbing team will use satellite and radar technology to find out its actual height.
Think about something else whilst waiting.
According to the World Health Organization:
56 Million deaths occur per year or about
153,400 per day, or a little more than 100 per minute.
Also,
225 births every minute, or something just over 350,000 per day.
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rockermike
Trad climber
Berkeley
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May 23, 2012 - 05:37pm PT
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speaking of stripper heals, wouldn't these make it more on-topic?
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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May 23, 2012 - 05:54pm PT
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Mia Hamm can rip off her jersy in celebration during the internationally televised Olympics
Mia Hamm was not trying to show off her tits, was she? Different context. Posing in front of a sacred place dressed like a hooker vs ripping your shirt off in a celebration (while you still have a sports bra on).
I agree with Tami. This is total circus, and probably belongs in her book.
I wish stuff that goes on Everest would be published less. Whatever happens on Everest should stay there.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
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May 23, 2012 - 05:56pm PT
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Funny a bunch of U.S. climbers favor imposing Everest climbing requirements. I reckon I wouldn't be that happy to show some guy from Nepal that I know how to place a blue camalot before I'm allowed to climb on my next Yosemite outing.
Personally, I don't wish anyone harm but just don't give a shite what goes on up on Everest.
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
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May 23, 2012 - 06:13pm PT
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Vitaly, it was Brandi Chastain at the World Cup who did that. Sometime in the early 2000's. Was in Pasadena though.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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May 23, 2012 - 06:17pm PT
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No Flouride it was Mia Hamm in the Olympics after winning the gold.
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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May 23, 2012 - 06:17pm PT
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Vitaly, it was Brandi Chastain
Whoever it was, she was not trying to act like a little slut.
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viejoalpinisto
Social climber
Pahrump, NV
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May 23, 2012 - 06:23pm PT
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I just realized...the real problem here is not morals or lack of preparation or bad guiding...it is just the innate American ability to not grasp numbers well. 300 people attempting the summit of Everest and only four die. That is miraculously low compared to any other 8000 meter peak?! Certainly nothing at all compared to K2, Annapurna, Kanchanjunga....So garage your opinions. A few deaths in the Death Zone certainly comes as no surprise to the hordes that walk past the corpse of Scott Fisher and others on Everest. The real ethical considerations are crowding, trash(including corpses) left on the mountain...etceteras. I stopped being remotely impressed by anyone climbing Everest by the trade routes long ago...Perhaps the mountaineering literature should start to reflect the widespread disdain for trade routes more than it does already...
"Every life is precious...but why do I treat them with such disdain?"
CP
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scuffy b
climber
heading slowly NNW
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May 23, 2012 - 06:27pm PT
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Check again, Philo.
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viejoalpinisto
Social climber
Pahrump, NV
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May 23, 2012 - 06:39pm PT
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And Ron...The truth is locals never went near base camp until they started granting permits, which diluted the sacredness, and so really there are no base camp locals...it is all kabuki, and frankly I am only offended by her bleached blonde hair...I mean really...did she not get the memo? Bleached hair is so last century! I prefer my exotic dancers on Everest to have black or brown hair and unshaven....
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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May 23, 2012 - 06:40pm PT
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Yeah, it was NOT Mia Hamm
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viejoalpinisto
Social climber
Pahrump, NV
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May 23, 2012 - 06:41pm PT
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Vitally... you say "Slut" like it is a bad thing?
"You need look only deep inside your own soul to find that which is truly despicable"
CP
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viejoalpinisto
Social climber
Pahrump, NV
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May 23, 2012 - 06:43pm PT
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rockermike is a genius!
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viejoalpinisto
Social climber
Pahrump, NV
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May 23, 2012 - 06:50pm PT
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They jug every step from base camp on the South and North routes now...That is why they are all in line. It is the antithesis of mountaineering....they could get a line like that on the Nose if they would let them fix the whole route! Imagine all the Bridge Tourons...give them a ten minute jugging lesson, a supply of valium for anxiety and send them on their way...The Park could charge two thousand for a permit, another thousand for the "Guides"....It would be a dream come true for many people....
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
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May 23, 2012 - 08:42pm PT
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That photo was clearly Brandi Chastain during the World Cup almost a decade ago.
Mia Hamm would NEVER do that.
Sorry Pihilo, you got that one wrong.
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Stewart Johnson
climber
lake forest
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May 23, 2012 - 09:00pm PT
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"shes built like a real brick shithouse, a regular man-trap.
i'd stay away from her, jonathon."
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