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BooYah
Social climber
Ely, Nv
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Feb 24, 2012 - 12:32am PT
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Some people are Creepy, Mighty Hiker. Some are not.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 24, 2012 - 01:07am PT
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Holy cow, are you guys really gonna let all this stuff live in your head, rent free?
Yallz need to keep a sense of humor. This ain't Das Forum. They'll be back, if they want. Count on it.
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jstan
climber
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Feb 24, 2012 - 01:36am PT
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I don't see how we are reacting to each other differently than before, Jstan. Can you give examples?
People that had never before drawn comparisons between people began to do so. The validity people have began to be questioned. What climbs or other things have you done?
Before we were saying whatever to each other, but no one was asked for their credentials. If we go with Jingy's Transactional Analysis, we have fallen out of adult interactions where all are equals.
I am not going to point to specific posts. Read the thread.
Our all being here as equals was what made ST what it was. The banning has counteracted some of the recent changes in atmosphere here, so don't get me wrong. Something was needed IMO.
Websites can feature people who are studiedly gracious with each other and ever anxious to provide information. Often from people "in the van". Originality and good humor aplenty. ST has some of this but only in patches. I think we could be doing so much better.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Feb 24, 2012 - 02:10am PT
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Who was oxy?
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Karen
Trad climber
So Cal urban sprawl Hell
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Feb 24, 2012 - 02:32am PT
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You guys still awake and chewing on all this....
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Karen
Trad climber
So Cal urban sprawl Hell
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Feb 24, 2012 - 02:48am PT
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I can just imagine!!!! Being sick is like solitary confinement - too sick to do anything, no one wants to be around a viral person, and yeah....bored as all hell is correct.
Still awake here, bored too but am getting quite a kick out of all you guys going on and on and on!
I think it is chicken sh*t if people were emailing CM to ban posters, means to me they are a bunch of whining thin skinned chumps. Agree Lois could be annoying, quite so and I was appalled by her comments directed towards Terrie on the sobriety thread, very condescending IMO. However, a couple of the banned posters I will not miss in the least, they were plain mean.
Oh well.....
All I can say locker is DON"T you get yourself banned, if this happens I am moving to Canada!!!!!! :)
edit: I am going to miss Rokjox, I really loved his Anti-Kali rants.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Feb 24, 2012 - 04:05am PT
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i got my gaydar on,
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Feb 24, 2012 - 09:08am PT
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Stranger ones have come by here before
They flew away.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Feb 24, 2012 - 10:39am PT
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It's more boring now.
The electricity is on low voltage.
More and more lifeless.
The fire is burning on simmer.
More bland and mundane.
Yes, true. If drama is your cup of tea. I admit I do enjoy the train wrecks. A couple arguing or someone screaming into their cel phone on the sidewalk on NYC? I KNOW I would slow down and voyeuristically engage myself.
Not the most healthy of energies to be fueling myself with...
Using this forum as an energizing force from the drama is no different from housewives glued to the tube in the 1970's, watching The Edge of Night, As the World Turns, and General Hospital.
People that had never before drawn comparisons between people began to do so. The validity people have began to be questioned. What climbs or other things have you done?
Ahh - I see. Interestingly though - those questions WERE asked of at least a few of the Deactivated, and sometimes repeatedly, while they were still active in the squabble.
Personally - I don't know that it is valid as a real "you have to pass such and such bar" to be part of the tribe here. I say so from personal experience, since I have never done anything of note, climbing wise, and am a big chicken oftentimes. I've taken the Gunkie "work up through the grades" to the extreme(wonder if that was the *tradition* when you were there, John?). I've even had some people VERY surprised, upon talking to me, to find out that I am not an oldschool broad with a gnarled history. I get the feeling, when that happens, that perhaps I they felt misled by my words(and that is not a good feeling!).
Yet nobody here has said "Happie doesn't belong." Or suggested my opinion less valid(even on some climbing stuff!) because I had only done...or never done...
I think the "what've you done?" reaction is a defense mechanism when a person feels viscerally that someone is out of line(their personal line, which may be completely skewed), and doesn't know how to emote "I think you're an as#@&%e! I don't know exactly WHY, But I THINK SO!!!! GRRRRR!!!!"
Admittedly, I only began that video(battery constraints), and it may very well be telling(probably is). But, what is going on in this forum does seem to be an organic function.
I don't know if anyone is REALLY feeling they have to censor themselves or risk banishment. Are they? If so - why? I'd really like to know. Because - if they feel it is BECAUSE of their political beliefs, or religious beliefs, or desire for skanty panty pics, or what have you - I think they would be wrong. If someone is worried "I can't get away with being as BIG an as#@&%e as I want?" Well - that may have some validity.
I do not think the people of the forum are going to tighten the noose on any assholishness behavior until we sound like a bunch of newborn chicks making "peep" sounds.
And now, I must be off. I am going climbing at New Jack City. Should I worry of banishment for participating in the...sport...of climbing?
Just had an epiphany! I never have seen climbing(on gear) as a sport. So, maybe traditional climbing is NOT a sport, but bolt-clipping is? I know that goes against the old saying but...maybe that saying was off?
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Feb 24, 2012 - 01:18pm PT
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I think that jstan, as usual, is on to something. Some very good climbers have also been rather scathing on this forum, but were not the target of a ban. It's as if we give less slack to those whose climbing records we admire less -- just as many of us do on the rocks.
I also think, though, that some of the threads ran out of new things to say a long time ago, so we end up reduced to trading insults. That I don't miss, although I do miss many of the banned posters.
Maybe what we really need to restore the voltage now is a good, new, controversial climbing ethics thread.
;)
John
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Feb 24, 2012 - 01:24pm PT
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People that had never before drawn comparisons between people began to do so. The validity people have began to be questioned. What climbs or other things have you done?
Before we were saying whatever to each other, but no one was asked for their credentials.
People on climbing forums have been drawing comparisons and questioning validity since there have been climbing forums.
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
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Feb 24, 2012 - 01:30pm PT
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Jesus, Lois' ban thread has surpassed 500 posts.
Stop, just stop.
Don't let this devolve into another stupid politico thread that bounces everything else that's actually related to climbing off the front page.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Feb 24, 2012 - 01:30pm PT
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Bump.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Feb 24, 2012 - 03:42pm PT
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hey there say, flouride... *wow, saw karen's post too, seemed she was curios, as well... :))
well--i had to stop by and see what was going on here, as, WOW this post/thread has
grown fast, :O
didn't know how or why, as, i figured there's only so much to be said,
but then,
i forgot for a sec:
the ol' taco has an awful lot of spices
it adds to every meal.... :O
:)
well, got to run off and do chores...
and read some more taco-meals really quick, first...
:)
ps:
oh my, sure hope locker feel better soon, i did note that he's
been sick lately, :(
sure don't want our climbers sick, then there's no climbing, and THEN:
there's no climbing trip reports, :(
:)
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
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Feb 24, 2012 - 04:55pm PT
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Did locker hijack nee bee's account?
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Feb 24, 2012 - 05:42pm PT
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hey there say, flouride.... whewwwwwwwww, oh my... nope all is well, :)
actually, it is kind of funny, :O
way, before i ever posted here, i used to DO that similar style that locker does... but:
i STOPPED doing it, when i came HERE, as HE was doing it here--didn't reckon it
was polite to cramp his style... :O
however, on occasions, certain posts sure warrent it, :))
*i used to do that style, and the 'emphasise word-type with caps' (that i do DO in my novels) (which is SUPPOSED to be a no-no--meaning we are bad writers if we use it) over at a fan site, for an older cowboy actor that we
know, and would see every few years, :)
okay, will leave the ol' style, back in locker's corner, :))
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Feb 24, 2012 - 09:48pm PT
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So....
Locker... Jaybro... Either of you going to go through each of the booted forum posts to find the pearls of wisdom from each?
Who has the time?
Oh, so many needles in so much stack... and so little time
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Feb 24, 2012 - 09:53pm PT
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You can go through your friend fattards posts (all 30 thousand) to find the gems...
Then your other friends....
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Feb 24, 2012 - 09:59pm PT
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I'm rollin'...
This is your thread... just figured....
Why?
Exactly....
Cheers (and don't pay too much attention to anything I post up here... I ain't all that...)
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Feb 24, 2012 - 10:07pm PT
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Now conceivably, one could start a new thread "Pearls of the Damned" or something, and post some words of wisdom from one of our departed each day or something. Someone else might have the energy for that.....
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