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WBraun
climber
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You politards are still completely insane ....
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Kirk and crew discover a galaxy far far away
Vader falls hard for Spock's sister
Luke winds up with pointy ears
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dirtbag
climber
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How ‘bout that new tax bill?
It will be a relief if Ivanka, Eric, and Donald jr. (who is a good boy) will not have to pay estate taxes when papa trump barks.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Let’s be excruciatingly clear - it didn’t matter if Hillary was the living embodiment of hell itself or if she had Bernie kidnapped and dismembered in her basement - it was the frigging Supreme Court majority at stake for gods sake.
Keep up this moronic mindset and you’ll personally elect yet more fascists in 2018 and 2020.
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dirtbag
climber
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Who cares. Bernie joined the Democratic Party solely to run for President, then quit.
Loyalty works both ways.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Well, as long as we elect the nice fascist it'll be OK.
The Brave Cowboy is on to something. Let it burn.
It is we the workers who built these palaces and cities here in Spain and in America and everywhere. We, the workers, can build others to take their place. And better ones! We are not in the least afraid of ruins. -- Buenaventura Durruti
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Sanders has always caucused with, and been an important part of, the Dems, so who gives a sh#t if he had to officially join them to run.
Secret agreement to control the DNC? Whoa!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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No comment,allowed.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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In jest, before the DNC candidate was decided*, I spoke that I might toss a Trump vote out as a cute impotent proverbial wrench in the gears. Yet when it came down to it, I drank that punch. No party is perfect Moose, but when shitheads show up pouring the punch, well, it seems like I never really wanted punch.
And no, Happie, I spoke in estimation of Amurrrica when I made that statement, not of my own politicosocial lilt.
Stale fruit is stale fruit, eventually, even subjectively. Things stink around here, anyone can tell you.
I question the veracity and utility of modern elections, and I wish that I would just speak with my coworkers on the other side of the coin. We all want the same things, really.
I guess the pint is that we should all just go
*dollar democracy
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c wilmot
climber
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. Propaganda must be planned and executed by only one authority
Nothing changed with trump. You people still don't get this
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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crankster and I voted for Hillary. heh.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Everything has changed with trump. You people still don't get this
fixed it for ya
Now we are the laughing stock...
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Yep!
But, manipulating the system to get HRC ahead of Bernie was no different than Trump's machinations. No moral superiority here.
I've been disillusioned with the Democratic Party long time ago. I vote Democrat only because the Republicans have an agenda that I don't like even more. The third parties are even more detached from reality.
There is no party in the world I would identify myself 100%. Compromise, or be damned.
Not voting for HRC was the ticket for Trump. The purists need to think hard how to justify their actions, given the outcome of the last presidential election.
It's not a game, people. Just watch Trump when he is cornered, and we are getting pretty close to that. Most likely he will start a war.
I am sorry so many of you couldn't see that. But, I do have an advantage as I lived through the similar authoritarian regimes in Poland. I recognized the theme right away. Do you know who was the master of propaganda?
Well said.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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And the purists should consider their selection of Timmy Kaine over Sanders as VP.
Lose with purity seems to be the Dem motto. Well done.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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I recall reading a series of stories about the Spanish Civil War in my 20's, which tended to destroy any illusions I had about the struggle of right vs. left in that horrible cataclysm.
I re-read the book in 2012 before visiting Spain & Spanish climber friends, for the first time.
The title is simply: "The Civil War in Spain." Published in 1962, it was edited by Robert Payne & is now well out of print.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6532153-the-civil-war-in-spain-1936-39.
From the book, I learned, while the communists, socialists, anarchists, Basque, & Catalans, in left-leaning Spain, fought Franco & his Nationalist Fascist forces, Hitler, & Mussolini, they often fought among themselves. While one or the other supposed allies in the leftish faction was fighting or betraying the other, Franco & his allies won the war in many ugly battles & campaigns.
There’s a lesson there, for those of us that learn history & lessons.
I’m sorry that some here don't know, or seem determined to ignore that lesson.
Trump & his allies are bringing Nationalism & Fascism back to popularity in America.
Halford E. Luccock famously said, “When and if fascism comes to America it will not be labeled ‘made in Germany’; it will not be marked with a swastika; it will not even be called fascism; it will be called, of course, ‘Americanism.’”
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Halford_E._Luccock
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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BC! Yeah, there was a Lincoln brigade story in the book too. They also got used & then betrayed by their friends & allies.
(The Russians always betrayed the other leftists at some point, since the outsiders never showed proper ideological purity.)
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Monolith- True enough!
I held my nose and voted for Hillary but a took a scalding shower and scrubbed my skin raw.
She sucks, her husband sucks, the party sucks!- were better than this.
Craig, move past the Hillary wing!
Here's a peace offering...a rallying for my fellow progressives.
https://youtu.be/biehbIPqV8c
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