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WBraun
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Apr 11, 2016 - 08:42pm PT
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The aliens used to come to this planet all the time from the upper planetary systems.
But after listening to DR F types they stopped coming to this planet.
Why?
Because the DR F types don't deserve ......
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Apr 11, 2016 - 08:48pm PT
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Pretty nice work . . . I have not seen modern masonry of this quality.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Apr 11, 2016 - 08:48pm PT
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Yep
I am personally responsible for Werner's aliens from ever coming back to our planet.
Is there any hope that they will forgive me, and come back anyway?
OH THE HUMANITY!!!!!!
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Apr 11, 2016 - 08:57pm PT
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TomC = Excellent rant dude. I'm with you. Eyes wide open. Don't buy any of the bull pucky.
healyje = Flat Earther = You're the one "believing" that space is too vast and nothing could go faster than light and we are as smart as we are ever going to be. "Interstellar travel will always be impossible according to the people I believe in." But hey, free universe baby, you get to believe whatever you want.
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Apr 11, 2016 - 09:02pm PT
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Aha!
thus proving the existence of a parallel universe
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Apr 11, 2016 - 09:48pm PT
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healyje = Flat Earther = You're the one "believing" that space is too vast and nothing could go faster than light and we are as smart as we are ever going to be
Never said we're as smart as we're going to be.
As for nothing going faster than light. Yep, and even going faster than light you're still talking time travel over the distances involved. And then there's the detection problem and the motivation problem. So you're onboard with aliens expending obscene resources to teach earthlings what - advanced rockcraft? And you're onboard with a retinue of hundreds if not thousands of different advanced civilizations visiting the earth in the last, oh, hundred years or so?
I mean, seriously? And at no point could they be bothered to simply show up and publicly and unambiguously announce themselves to us?
It's all too mindlessly stupid for words and defies even basic common sense - no physics or cosmology required.
[ Edit: Oh, and don't get me wrong, I believe the universe is filled with intelligent life; but they're pinned to their ecologies, positions and times. ]
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raymond phule
climber
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Apr 11, 2016 - 10:18pm PT
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So Aliens visit the earth and do stone work here? Couldn't they left something a little more special than stones?
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Apr 11, 2016 - 10:20pm PT
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Apr 11, 2016 - 10:27pm PT
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Yeah, I mean...
"We got visited by aliens and all I got was fancy rockwork"
Seems like metalworking and cure for syphillis and smallpox would have been a tad more useful. Just saying...
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Apr 11, 2016 - 11:07pm PT
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well if we decided to agree with everything you say, that would be on what basis
your 'common sense' and uniformed opinion
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Apr 11, 2016 - 11:18pm PT
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My common sense is rooted in physics, cosmology, material science and biology - what does your whole schtick have behind it? Nothing but fantasy.
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Apr 11, 2016 - 11:55pm PT
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with all respect, i don't object to common sense or gut feelings
it seems perhaps you have not tried to keep current with developments in physics, cosmology, and material science … which is admittedly beyond most people, certainly including me
you seem to perhaps live in a Newtonian physics world
which is fine and adequate for building bridges or calculating orbital dynamics and interplanetary navigation
but inadequate for example to keeping the GPS constellation functioning accurately or coordinating massively parallel supercomputers
how about multiverses and the trouble with strings and quantum entanglement 'spooky action at a distance' and gravity waves and unknown sources of cosmic rays more than 10 million times greater than those in the Large Hadron Collider … enough to drive a sane man dizzy to think about it ...
never mind dark matter and energy or morphic fields and resonance
so DARPA's massive funding of quantum computing is perhaps just a money laundering scheme
i guess those can all be discounted as admittedly fantasy attempts to explain anomolous observations and unusual phenomena that probably, as you say, didn't really happen
of course leading physicist authorities at the national labs have it all figured out
not even close
sometimes you remind me of the bumper sticker that says, 'Quick, hire a teenager, while they still know everything!'
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Apr 12, 2016 - 07:36am PT
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Man Made Stone objects
from the stone age
or stone fences tramped down by cattle
Well we have to classify the first attempt as "not good enough"
to put it lightly
But I do Thank you Tom
you did put out the effort
and I would like to see more
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Apr 12, 2016 - 10:35am PT
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yeah, we see you didn't do the homework that i suggested you look at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcD1h9DYitg
i am not saying they had to be build by 'aliens', but they make no sense in terms of analysis by authoritative anthropologists who publish that there were only a few people, perhaps 1000 in south Africa at the time those structures were built, apparently over a hundred thousand years ago
however there are millions of these large structures visible in Google Maps
each structure has thousands of very heavy stones which were transported considerable distances
the structures have no windows or doors
they are all connected by stone roads that end facing a stone wall with no door
they are all lined up astronomically and geometrically
they seem to be associated with gold deposits
also visible in Google Maps is that much of the entire area is terraced for agriculture
the whole civilization that built them seems to have been wiped out by an incredible flood with geologic markers similar to those from the incredible floods through the Columbia River basin area of Washington State
and we are told that civilization only emerged on this planet about 6000 years ago
meh!
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Apr 12, 2016 - 11:53am PT
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i don't know that Tellinger claims to be a scientist
but he has been a diligent researcher
and even some of the most diligent and respected researchers and scientists have serious detractors
perhaps you have heard of Galileo
aging ancient stuff is a challenging enterprise, particularly when it sheds inconvenient light on the research of established authorities
check out the career of J Harlen Bretz:
http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/10/the-scablands-a-scarred-landscape-as-strange-as-fiction/1/
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raymond phule
climber
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Apr 12, 2016 - 12:01pm PT
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I have only done 5 minutes google research on the matter so maybe I am wrong and you are free to give other and better sources.
But to me it kind of looks like your "facts" come from a single source with limited credibility. For example is it some kind of consensus that the formations are 200000 years old (my wikipedia source seems to say that they are a few hundred years old)?
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Apr 12, 2016 - 12:06pm PT
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so when i spend days or weeks or more looking into something interesting and decide it might be worthy of your attention and so refer you to a summary presentation or article
please appreciate my attempts to remain polite when you can't be troubled to spend more than a few minutes on your decision to reject the information source
there are a lot more people looking at these conversations than are willing to join the fray
i get private emails from people who appreciate the information and don't want to expose themselves to the noise
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raymond phule
climber
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Apr 12, 2016 - 12:13pm PT
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Sorry, but you didn't even give your source (except that it might be in a 4 hour long youtube video) and presented it like facts. I did a search and found an article that made the some points written by a non scientists calling himself a scientist. I continued to search and found completely different information.
Sorry, that I don't believe that those formations are 200 000 thousands years old.
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Apr 12, 2016 - 05:47pm PT
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Dingus, you're off topic. We're currently talking about the Giant Balls of Machu Pichu, or as some theorize, the giant Giant Stone Eggs of the Birdmen of Machu Pichu. Seems that the nephlim laid these eggs to preserve the Birdman (and Birdwormen, for that matter) because of the approach of an alien comet that was going to destroy the world, or at least cause great inconvenience.
Turns out that recently discovered extremely ancient runes, deciphered with the help of the recently (and very fortuitously) discovered 'Code Book of the Ancients' indicate that in fact, as verified by many sources, the alien comet that struck the earth was an ice ball. This is where the story of Noah originated; the ice comet melted as it entered the earth's atmosphere and it rained comet juice for forty days and forty nights, flooding the entire earth and destroying the venerated city of Atlantis in the process.
In any case, the Giant Balls (or eggs) survived the flood and eventually hatched, reviving the ancient race of the Birdmen (and Birdwomen) of Machu Pichu. The rest, as they say, is history.
Needless to say, this short summary of the cataclysmic impact of the ice comet Moroni with the ancient earth covers only some of the facts. More details are available upon request. If you have any doubt of the veracity of this exposition, please disprove it.
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