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BLUEBLOCR
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joshua tree
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Feb 28, 2015 - 08:58pm PT
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WiKi
Truth is most often used to mean being in accord with fact or reality,[1] or fidelity to an original or to a standard or ideal.[1]
The commonly understood opposite of truth is falsehood, which, correspondingly, can also take on a logical, factual, or ethical meaning. The concept of truth is discussed and debated in several contexts, including philosophy and religion. Many human activities depend upon the concept, where its nature as a concept is assumed rather than being a subject of discussion; these include most (but not all) of the sciences, law, and everyday life.
Various theories and views of truth continue to be debated among scholars, philosophers, and theologians.[2] Language and words are a means by which humans convey information to one another and the method used to determine what is a "truth" is termed a criterion of truth. There are differing claims on such questions as what constitutes truth: what things are truthbearers capable of being true or false; how to define and identify truth; the roles that faith-based and empirically based knowledge play; and whether truth is subjective or objective, relative or absolute.
MikeL, how can philosophy be dead? From where most (man's) truths originated.
What if i said, "someday there will be Life on Mars".
even if only my statement is but Life?
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feralfae
Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
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Feb 28, 2015 - 09:00pm PT
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Did we need a definition of gobbledygook?
wiki: Gibberish and gobbledygook refer to speech or other use of language that is nonsense, or that appears to be nonsense. It may include speech sounds that are not actual words,[1] or forms such as language games or highly specialized jargon that seems non-sensical to outsiders.[2] Gibberish should not be confused with literary nonsense such as that used in the poem "Jabberwocky" by Lewis Carroll.[citation needed]
The word gibberish is more commonly applied to speech, while gobbledygook (sometimes gobbledegook, gobbledigook or gobbledegoo) is more often applied to writing.[citation needed] "Officialese", "legalese", or "bureaucratese" are forms of gobbledygook. The related word jibber-jabber refers to rapid talk that is difficult to understand.[
So, not to be confused with the term gossip.
feralfae
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Feb 28, 2015 - 09:06pm PT
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Thank You!
alright, so we understand the difference between nonsense, and hard to understand.
So have you read the ?bible
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BLUEBLOCR
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joshua tree
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Feb 28, 2015 - 09:42pm PT
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It is not his fault.
SEE!/Cee?, maybe ISIS is okie/dokie?!
if we could just eliveaite fault from the evolutionary dictionary...
everything would be OK
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Feb 28, 2015 - 09:53pm PT
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no it is my fault, Moosedriven.
that's my point
Cheer's!
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WBraun
climber
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Yes HFCS loves to worship his pedophilia allowing little god.
"Dawkins claims that "mild pedophilia" does not cause "lasting harm."
All while HFCS continues on with his insane lunatic hypocritical preaching ......
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MH2
Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
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we still need to educate the criminal
I'm trying to learn.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Mar 1, 2015 - 08:48am PT
insane lunatic hypocritical preaching ......
Everyone knows the troll who perfected this.
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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^^^ The "mysterianism" I advocate is really nothing more than the acknowledgment that human intelligence is a local, contingent, temporal, practical and expendable feature of life on earth - an incremental adaptation based on earlier forms of intelligence that no one would regard as faintly omniscient. The current state of the philosophy of mind, from my point of view, is just a reflection of one evolutionary time-slice of a particular bipedal species on a particular humid planet at this fleeting moment in cosmic history - as is everything else about the human animal. There is more ignorance in it than knowledge.
This has been my argument all along. We simply are not capable of "understanding" everything. I have tried for years to teach Jake calculus, but he is an obstinate little guy and will have none of it. Don't tell him, but I don't think he is capable!
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MH2
Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
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Ah, but if we get a Corgi to express gene ARHGAP11B would its math ability improve? It isn't about where we are right now, it's about where we've been and where we might go.
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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BB: MikeL, how can philosophy be dead? From where most (man's) truths originated.
Philosophy may not be dead, but it’s not exactly alive, either. A great many things cannot be brought down to analytical arguments. Nor can reality be reduced to empirical facts, either. In so many ways, we seem to be coming to an understanding that we don’t really understand much of anything. Not only are non-empirical studies and elements non-translatable to empirical studies and elements (and vice versa), but even among empirical studies, there is very little that be directly connected to other empirical studies (incommensurability).
Philosophy was supposed to provide broad singular views, but like most everything else, we see all structures dissembling when closely poked or probed. Not one thing stands independent, permanent, or can be pinned down. (If this is truth, then it’s a truth that laughs at our efforts to know it.)
People are quick to ridicule radical skepticism, chaos, rampant relativism, nihilism, etc., but these default positions appear to be about all that is left. Conceptualization is partial.
But, hey . . . we can rely on “naive realism” and “evolution.” We have those to comfort us—and we can rest assured that One Day, everything will finally be known for sure. How can it not?
I don’t remember who said it (Edward R. Murrow? Pogo?), but if you’re not confused by everything going on, then you don’t really know what’s going on.
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feralfae
Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
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You may have had this one in mind, as it is fairly well known.
“If you're not confused, you're not paying attention.”
― Tom Peters, Thriving on Chaos: Handbook for a Management Revolution
We may become very proficient at messing around with matter, but perplexed by subjective matters. And that might well be what identifies us as humans. :) Confusion may be our defining characteristic, and a great incentive to keep asking questions.
feralfae
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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^^^^ Good post, Mike.
Classical philosophy would not be a great career choice. As a hobby, perhaps. Kind of like the math notes I write these days: trivial but fun.
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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^^^ I stand watching with bated breath . . .!
"classical".
So there!
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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But, hey . . . we can rely on “naive realism” and “evolution.”
sure, science does answer some of our questions. Like, what happens after we explode the A bomb? But evolution can't be queeread. The next step has to be philosophical?
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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How do you not consider Transcendentalism when reading Walden or the Beats?
I prefer to receive transcendental knowledge through the aether, a medium related to no-thingness and one in which I have a firm belief, being a staunch supporter of unacceptable physics. I believe that such knowledge may reside in wraiths of ectoplasm as well.
Besides, I never cared for Walden or the Beats.
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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Bump . . . since some religious stuff is starting to appear on the "mind" thread.
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