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Aeriq

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100-year Visitor

Jan 28, 2019 - 10:25pm PT

I have seen some horrible memes about her - stirring hate for the young upstart raises faux conservative hackles!

I think she is awesome and has some much-needed integrity!

wilbeer

Mountain climber

Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,

Jan 29, 2019 - 07:14am PT

But,Gary,The Caravans are coming!

10b4me

Social climber

Lida Junction

Jan 29, 2019 - 07:35am PT

I'll vote for anybody that promises to take a bayonet and gut the Pentagon.

Politicians cry that we have no money for education, can't afford to pay teachers or reduce class sizes. We have no money for libraries and fire stations, can't afford to feed poor kids, fix our crumbling infrastructure, Social Security is a luxury we can't afford.

But we can pay $8 billion each for new destroyers we can't figure out what to do with. They've got fancy guns that fire shells that cost $800,000 each!

That sh#t we can afford.

couldn't agree more.

EdwardT

Trad climber

Retired

Jan 29, 2019 - 08:50am PT

Angry Democrats are planning to boycott Starbucks if former CEO Howard Schultz runs for president. The 65-year-old billionaire has said that he may run as an independent - a move which could peel votes away from whoever wins the Democratic nomination to face President Trump.

Putting it bluntly was a heckler at a New York Barnes & Noble, who told Schultz: "Don't help elect Trump, you egotistical, billionaire as#@&%e."

Love those progressives.

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On 60 Minutes, he came across as a moderate liberal... not a centrist... as he claims. Nevertheless, he's much more appealing than any prospect in either party. For now, he's got my vote. And probably the vote of a lot of moderate conservatives.

jogill

climber

Colorado

Jan 29, 2019 - 11:50am PT

^^^ He sounds good to me. (Billionaire notwithstanding)

Reilly

Mountain climber

The Other Monrovia- CA

Jan 29, 2019 - 12:16pm PT

So, would he take away more moderate Repubs or more moderate Dems?
The pollsters will charge double for that sh!tshow!

apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Jan 29, 2019 - 12:47pm PT

Then someone needs to talk Schultz into running as a Democrat.

Reilly

Mountain climber

The Other Monrovia- CA

Jan 29, 2019 - 12:54pm PT

Sounds like the Dems need to be talked into letting him run.
What’s the phrase? ‘Cut off yer nose to spite yer face’

10b4me

Social climber

Lida Junction

Jan 29, 2019 - 01:11pm PT

Then someone needs to talk Schultz into running as a Democrat.

Trump has already called him stoopid. I think it would be a hoot if he ran as a repugnicant.

apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Jan 29, 2019 - 01:54pm PT

Trump is just trying to goad him into running. A Schultz/Independent campaign is probably his best shot at re-election.

Norton

climber

The Wastelands

Jan 29, 2019 - 02:07pm PT

I am convinced Donald will not be running for another term as President.

If the election were held right now he would lose in a landslide to virtually any Democrat, so much under water is his polling.

And it is only going to get worse as more and more indictments, prison sentences,
and Mueller's report comes out.

Needing 67 votes in the Senate to impeach, that is not going to happen.

Trump announces sometime early next year that he will not be running, will declare victory and retire to his wonderful, opulent life.

In 2020 it is the Republicans bad fortune to defend the most seats, likely the Senate flips
as a Dem is elected President.

10b4me

Social climber

Lida Junction

Jan 29, 2019 - 02:33pm PT

I've been thinking that for awhile.

apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Jan 29, 2019 - 02:36pm PT

Whatever it takes, man. We can't move away from this embarrassing period in American history fast enough, as far as I'm concerned.

wilbeer

Mountain climber

Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,

Jan 29, 2019 - 02:49pm PT

All True.

monolith

climber

state of being

Jan 29, 2019 - 03:01pm PT

Forget flipping the senate in 2020. The cons have more seats up for election, but they are mostly in deep conservative states.

Only realistic chance is flipping Susan Collins and Cory Gardner. Dems will lose Jones seat cuz he won't be running against a child molestor this time.

That still leaves you a couple short (assuming a Dem vp).

WBraun

climber

Jan 29, 2019 - 03:41pm PT

Nothings gonna change in the district of criminals.

You fools are so brainwashed it's ridiculous ......

wilbeer

Mountain climber

Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,

Jan 29, 2019 - 04:10pm PT

Thank You.

apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Jan 30, 2019 - 09:29am PT

Why Trump's superfans dig Ocasio-Cortez
'I aspire to be the conservative AOC,' said one GOP congressman.
By BEN SCHRECKINGER 01/30/2019 05:02 AM EST
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/30/aoc-congress-republicans-1134065

(Excerpts)

They detest what she stands for. They think her policies would destroy the country. And they wish she would just go away.

All the same, many of President Donald Trump’s most media-conscious supporters can’t help but admit it: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has got serious political game.

“I aspire to be the conservative AOC,” Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) told POLITICO. Gaetz, an outspoken 36-year-old in his second term who has achieved a measure of prominence as a highly visible Trump defender, said there’s just one problem with that aspiration: “I can’t dance for sh#t.”

"AOC has what I call 'gameness' or competitive heart — the combination of grit, determination, fighting spirit that you can't coach,” Steve Bannon, Trump’s former chief strategist, told POLITICO. “You either have it or you don't, and she has it big league."

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The president’s most media-savvy supporters recognize Ocasio-Cortez’s approach because it is so similar to Trump’s, a comparison they often make.

“Laughing at Trump, as the libs did, sure stopped him from being POTUS,” the far-right activist Mike Cernovich tweeted in November, adding, “Laughing at AOC, as the cons are doing now, sure is hurting her.”

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Since Ocasio-Cortez’s upset of Democratic incumbent Joe Crowley in last summer’s primary, Cernovich has regularly weighed in on her political potential, arguing that she is a left-wing Trump with a better understanding of social media and the benefit of positive coverage from mainstream outlets.

"I think her policies and everything are a disaster but I just look at her effectiveness,” Cernovich said, praising her as an exemplar of the 19th-century German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche's concept of will to power. “No one's more effective than her right now."

The self-described democratic socialist has also caught the attention of "Dilbert" creator Scott Adams, a prominent pro-Trump voice on social media who began insisting in the summer of 2015 that the real estate mogul would win the presidential election, based in part on his belief that Trump had mastered the principles of hypnosis.

In November, Adams, who has studied the art of persuasion, gave Ocasio-Cortez an A+ grade on her persuasion skills in a tweet. He responded to a skeptic who argued that her appeal was limited by responding, "Same thing was said of Donald Trump in 2015."

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Meanwhile, Ann Coulter, another early Trump believer, has become privately preoccupied with Ocasio-Cortez’s ability to command mass attention, according to a person close to the conservative commentator.

"Terrified is a good word," said the person. "She's terrified of her.” The person recounted a recent conversation with Coulter in which, "She was ranting about, ‘AOC's going to be the next president even if she's not old enough to run.’” Coulter did not respond to emails requesting comment.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a Trump ally, mustered only a backhanded compliment for the young Democratic socialist.

“Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is an energetic, enthusiastic, stunningly self-confident person who has the enthusiastic help of much of the liberal media,” he told POLITICO. “Whether uninformed moral self-righteousness and charisma can overcome stunningly false facts will be a real test of how far American education has decayed.”

(Who are we talking about, again?)

For some on the populist right, the answer to handling the media-savvy congresswoman lies in the old adage, “If you can’t beat them, join them.” For them, the congresswoman’s ability to rally the left to populist causes could be an opportunity.

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Coulter, for her part, has taken to Twitter to appeal to the congresswoman directly.

“Ocasio-Cortez wants a 70-80% income tax on the rich. I agree! Start with the Koch Bros. — and also make it WEALTH tax,” she tweeted at the beginning of the month. Last week, Coulter followed up by tweeting a report about financier Ken Griffin making the most expensive home purchase in U.S. history, writing, “Attention Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.”