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Patrick Sawyer
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Originally California, now Ireland
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Dec 30, 2018 - 04:22pm PT
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Okay, let us see where it all leads, I do not think it is going to be pretty.
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WBraun
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Dec 30, 2018 - 04:32pm PT
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The Trumpinator will rool the world ..... :-)
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Patrick Sawyer
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Originally California, now Ireland
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Dec 30, 2018 - 04:40pm PT
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Jody posted a list of Trump's "accomplishments", from Kellyanne Conway via the Washington Examiner.
A great source. Conway of the term, "Alternative facts."
just about every one of those 'facts' on the list, can be disputed.
It is not for me to prove it, it is for you to disprove it. You posted it.
Look it up, if you have the time
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Patrick Sawyer
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Originally California, now Ireland
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Dec 30, 2018 - 04:55pm PT
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The lies, we all lie in some form or manner.
But the hypocrisy.
Not cute.
Yet Trump tries to be the cute hoor.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Dec 30, 2018 - 05:09pm PT
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Trump's # 1! As the biggest lier ever elected president!
Woohoo!
And each year, he lies still more than the year before, per this Washington Post tally.
A year of unprecedented deception: Trump averaged 15 false claims a day in 2018
When 2018 began, the president had made 1,989 false and misleading claims, according to The Fact Checker’s database, which tracks every suspect statement uttered by the president. By the end of the year, Trump had accumulated more than 7,600 untruths during his presidency — averaging more than 15 erroneous claims a day during 2018, almost triple the rate from the year before.
A breakdown of his wonderful year of lies here.
I do wonder about the sanity of those who support him? Only the most stupid Americans could believe all those frequently bad lies.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/12/30/year-unprecedented-deception-trump-averaged-false-claims-day/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.29adcda17b9d
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Dec 31, 2018 - 08:01am PT
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Start it... I'lll call Cosmic and see if he's down for it ...Where's Winemaker....At some junk car show....?
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dirtbag
climber
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Dec 31, 2018 - 08:02am PT
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I hope she learned something from the Pocahontas debacle. She allowed him to get under skin. You can’t beat trump by wrestling with that pig.
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Dec 31, 2018 - 08:15am PT
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Hey Moose, I'm in for $5!
Happy New Year everyone!!!
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 31, 2018 - 09:00am PT
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Much as I appreciate many of her views, I’d really rather not see Warren run (or be POTUS). I don’t think she can win...she hasn’t demonstrated the kind of political tactics needed to go up against a shitbag like Trump (i.e. Pochantas), and I’m not convinced she’d handle the difficult job very well, either.
Dems need to become unified behind someone who can win and end this reign of stupidity and corruption. I’m not at all sure who that person is, however.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Dec 31, 2018 - 09:07am PT
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Elizabeth Warren announced she wants to be President....oh crap
She has already demonstrated her strategist brilliance by releasing her Indian ancestry to be a laughingly tiny percentage, instead of simply keeping her mouth shut about it.
Being female loses some 3-5 million votes right out of the gate.
please Democrats, put up a moderate white male and he will be President in 2020,
along with tailgating taking the Senate to go along with the House
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SuperSpud
Trad climber
Cayucos, CA
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Dec 31, 2018 - 11:00am PT
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I hate to be the bearer of terrible news, but tRump is going to fool the same people in 2020 that he fooled in 2016. The guy's clearly a d#@&%ebag, but he's also a master of media manipulation. For example, using Twitter to instantly reach millions with absolutely no filtering or vetting, was, it pains me greatly to say it, brilliant.
So unless some other party is able to resurrect Jesus effing Christ and run him for President, we're going to have Trumpelstiltskin until the end of 2024. Then probably his wife afterwards....
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Dec 31, 2018 - 11:31am PT
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Super Stud....You may be right but let's wait and see how the witch hunt plays out...
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dirtbag
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Dec 31, 2018 - 11:43am PT
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I don’t care at all about a person’s age. I want someone good, not necessarily young, old or in between.
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 31, 2018 - 01:25pm PT
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“I hate to be the bearer of terrible news, but tRump is going to fool the same people in 2020 that he fooled in 2016.”
This is true, but the portion of brainless Trump droids who supported him in his campaign, and have continued to rationalize all of his dysfunction are not enough of the electorate by themselves to create a clear win. He still needs a large percentage of the vote that comes from voters who are more malleable in their decision.
There are plenty of those voters (characterized as disenfranchised middle age white guys) who are as disappointed as anyone in the last two years. If the Dems can put someone forward who isn’t as establishment as Hillary and a lot more likeable, they can win.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Dec 31, 2018 - 01:45pm PT
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“I hate to be the bearer of terrible news, but tRump is going to fool the same people in 2020 that he fooled in 2016.”
what do you base your prediction upon, do you have a polling source to share with us?
or is this a "gut" feeling you have?
every current poll that I have seen shows the opposite, if Trump ran again he would lose
in a landslide
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2017-trump-heartland-sentiment/
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Dec 31, 2018 - 02:13pm PT
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China is threatening the death sentence for Canadian citizens in it's custody, unless Canada stops extradition of Huawei.
WTF? Has our political world lost its damned mind? It was one thing when it was despots murdering their own, but then Putin went and poisoned that man and his daughter. Then Saudi Arabia decides murdering a journalist is acceptable behavior, and the US just throws its arms up in the air as if "What are we gonna do?" And now China threatens execution if they don't get THEIR way?
How can anyone know these things are happening and NOT see that we are in a world war?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Dec 31, 2018 - 02:21pm PT
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Good questions Happie Girl....
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 31, 2018 - 02:27pm PT
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Has our political world lost its damned mind?
Like people haven’t been asking that question since Thog stole Fug’s woman?
You don’t seriously think things are worse now than when the Ottomans were at the gates
of Vienna, do you? We might never have had the Linzer torte!
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Dec 31, 2018 - 02:29pm PT
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I don't know history well enough to say how things now compare, but why would it have to be "not as bad as?" Can we NEVER learn?
"I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones" - Albert Einstein
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dirtbag
climber
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Tomorrow, real oversight begins.
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