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RyanD
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May 11, 2015 - 01:39pm PT
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Alpamayo
Trad climber
Davis, CA
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May 11, 2015 - 02:01pm PT
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You need to charge your phone.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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May 11, 2015 - 02:04pm PT
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - May 11, 2015 - 04:37pm PT
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John, i honestly don't think i've even worn anything pink...
Lol Ryan! At least I'm consistent! :)
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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May 11, 2015 - 04:50pm PT
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John, i honestly don't think i've even worn anything pink...
Well now we know what to get you for xmas. Do you like your tutus long or short?
Seriously, one of my favorite t-shirts was pink. And I had a pink harness.
edit: does that mean I'm ghey?
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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May 11, 2015 - 05:40pm PT
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Clipping a draw into a bolt is a lot easier than hand placing on lead, if you didn't place the pro it's a pink point.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - May 11, 2015 - 05:56pm PT
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So wait, quickdraws aren't pro?
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ruppell
climber
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May 11, 2015 - 06:15pm PT
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Nope. The bolts the protection. You wouldn't just clip a quickdraw to a rope by itself and expect it to hold would you?
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - May 11, 2015 - 06:26pm PT
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No, but the bolt's pretty useless without a biner attached to it..
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WBraun
climber
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May 11, 2015 - 06:28pm PT
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LOL
Big Mike = 1
ruppell = 0
:-)
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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May 11, 2015 - 06:31pm PT
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a sling is pretty useless without a biner attached to it
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WBraun
climber
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May 11, 2015 - 06:34pm PT
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Not true
There are many uses for a sling without a biner ....
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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May 11, 2015 - 06:34pm PT
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yeah just crawl through it, great pro w/o a biner.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - May 11, 2015 - 06:40pm PT
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a sling is pretty useless without a biner attached to it
As pro yes. So hence draws (biners) are pro because they are required to clip bolts and gear.
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ruppell
climber
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May 11, 2015 - 06:51pm PT
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Draws and biners are links in the system. Pro being gear or bolts. You clip into a protection point. Go to any climbing store website and search protection. You will not find biners or draws listed there. Kinda semantics though as you can't easily use any of it without the rope, the pro, and the biners.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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May 11, 2015 - 06:56pm PT
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This whole thread is semantics, lol.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - May 11, 2015 - 06:58pm PT
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So are you saying the rope isn't pro either? ;)
If something is needed to clip to the protection, doesn't that make it protection?
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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May 11, 2015 - 07:04pm PT
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Dorkiest thread to get archived award.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - May 11, 2015 - 08:09pm PT
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You ever place a rope?
Lol.. No. Obviously joking, but without a rope as you said, it's all useless.
How does any of this change the definition of redpoint?
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