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mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 2, 2014 - 12:10pm PT
That chuff fella sure is impervious.

Ten bucks says next Winter when we are 200% or better

I'll bet $10 the northern Sierra will NOT be at 200% or better of average based on data from: http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/precip1/8STATIONHIST

Come on chuff, it is only $10... and your stellar record of climate predictions.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Apr 2, 2014 - 12:18pm PT
Then there is NO drought in LA.


Perfect.



Pretty amazing how the LA Aqueduct is full to the brim and flowing just fine all the way down to .. LA!

That is correct. but your understanding of the situation is that of a flea considering the actions of the dog it lives upon.

But as you've stated, there is no drought in the Owens Valley, either.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 2, 2014 - 01:17pm PT
There is no drought anywhere because chuff has extraordinary long term vision and understanding of Earth's climate. He is an authority on the subject because he says he is. If climate was wildly different during various periods over the last 5 billion years and modern humans have only been around for ~200,000 years, it is only logical that ANY climatic changes within the previous range of variability are due to something other than humans.

Also, there is no ozone depletion due to human actions because for most of the Earth's history the NORM was little or no ozone in the atmosphere. So logically, if there was no ozone for most of the Earth's history, there is no way humans could adversely affect ozone levels.

derp
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
Apr 2, 2014 - 01:20pm PT
Here in LA, our reservoirs are nearly 100% full, thank you.




LACWD purchases imported water from local SWP contractors including Antelope Valley-East Kern Water Agency, Castaic Lake Water Agency and Metropolitan Water District of Southern California, or regional wholesale water agencies such as Los Angeles Department of Water and Power and West Basin Municipal Water District.

...

The Colorado River Aqueduct stretches 240 miles from Lake Havasu on the California-Arizona border to Lake Mathews in Riverside County. California has been taking over 5 million acre feet of water from the Colorado River a year even though they are only entitled to 4.4 million acre feet. The Metropolitan Water District is a consortium of 26 cities and water districts that imports water from the SWP and CRA to supply drinking water to much of Southern California. In areas where local groundwater is available, LACWD owns and operates groundwater production wells which are used to pump the water from the groundwater basin to the surface. The groundwater is then disinfected and pumped into the distribution system.
John M

climber
Apr 2, 2014 - 01:38pm PT
4 inches of snow here in Wawona.

Badger pass probably has its best snow of the winter and they are closed.

the park service was supposed to start plowing glacier point road on monday. too funny..

Los Angeles imports most of its water. They will be okay. Where they could hurt is if this dry period persists. who is going to hurt this summer are San Joaquin valley farmers. And our aquifers as the farmers will pump a lot of water.
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Apr 2, 2014 - 06:18pm PT
4" of snow in Wawona ya say Moose? Nice. We can now official call an end to both the drought and to global warming. I'll tell the scientists. Not the antichrist guy who posts on ST all day long, the smart ones I mean.

Next topic.
John M

climber
Apr 2, 2014 - 06:19pm PT
no watering required in the winter time in the valley. Lawns mostly go dormant.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
Apr 2, 2014 - 07:41pm PT
I was wondering why, if there is no drought (is this different from a draught?), all the reservoirs in San Diego county, are at such a low level.

Is someone upstream or upstairs diverting all the moisture to make it appear that there is no drought in areas where people are easily fooled?
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Apr 2, 2014 - 07:45pm PT
hey there, say, john m ... saw a bunch of nice pics from folks, of now share... thanks for sharing...

:)
labrat

Trad climber
Auburn, CA
Apr 2, 2014 - 08:06pm PT
Great post zBrown!

The thud we just heard was The Chief being pushed over with a feather after the knockout...

:-)
Erik
Bob Harrington

climber
Bishop, California
Apr 2, 2014 - 08:15pm PT
State snow courses just came in at 32% of normal. Looking more like ~45% in the Owens. Bleak...but the skiing's improved.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Apr 2, 2014 - 10:10pm PT
The Chief...I wanna see you straddle a fence little buddy...rj
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Apr 2, 2014 - 10:22pm PT
Dingus, your ABCNEWS report posted above was from f*#king Feb 21st!

A lot has "precipitated" since then. Maybe not so dismal anymore? Especially after the past weekend.

The shock and awe water-police in this State are priceless. You can never win.

And that stupid little Delta Smelt needs to die off. Killing farms and farmers, man.

EDIT:
I was wondering why, if there is no drought (is this different from a draught?), all the reservoirs in San Diego county, are at such a low level.

Is someone upstream or upstairs diverting all the moisture to make it appear that there is no drought in areas where people are easily fooled?

A couple of reasons. You guys get much less rain than Nor Cal, and depend on us to release the water from here through delivery systems to SO Cal. Which I have no problem with.

Maybe we're just waiting to let the storage facilities up here to get fuller before we release down to you guys. That'd be my guess.

We did get a great deal of water over the last week. The weekend was dumping.
labrat

Trad climber
Auburn, CA
Apr 2, 2014 - 10:34pm PT
"And that stupid little Delta Smelt needs to die off."

After the Smelt which fish should we kill off next?

Sorry. I would rather pay more for my food.
Erik


EDIT
We have not received nearly enough rain and snow to catch up. Look up the reservoir levels. This drought has been going on for much longer than just this year. Wake up....
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
Apr 2, 2014 - 10:40pm PT
Maybe we're just waiting to let the storage facilities up here to get fuller before we release down to you guys. That'd be my guess.

That would be a bad guess.

If you're going to offer up opinions, take some time to research the issues under discussion.


Every water "authority" has a website. A good place to start would be with these.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 2, 2014 - 10:48pm PT
You can't get a well driller to bid (or honor previous bids) on municipal work in the central valley now.

Farmers frantically trying to save millions of dollars worth of trees and other crops have bid the price per foot of hole through the roof!

At least someone's making something out of this.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Apr 2, 2014 - 10:49pm PT
You're right about that Smelt, Labrat.

Wanting to fry the Smelt is indeed shortsighted.

Imagine the hit to the local economy should anything ever happen to that Smelt.

Every fall, fishermen from all over the world flock to the local area for the annual Smelt Run, all hoping to fill their stringers with Trophy Smelt.

The rest of the year, tourists keep the local economy humming, spending their money on one of the many Smelt Watching Tours.

All the people employed at the local Smelt Canneries will be out of work, exacerbating an already rotten economy.

The entire economy, everything from The Holiday Inn to Virgil's Bait Shop, owes its existence to the majestic Delta Smelt.

Long May You Run.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Apr 2, 2014 - 10:49pm PT
latest updates;
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-california-snow-levels-improve-20140402,0,3831006.story?track=rss#axzz2xmsCkv4H

The Delta Smelt can be dealt with in other ways if there was a will. Instead we're going to dump billions into a stupid f*#king high-speed train from Nor Cal to So cal.

All the while, we'll piss and moan about water-storage resources. Yeah, let's build a high-speed train that no-one will use, and isn't really "high-speed". And continue to whine about water resources.

California is politically stupid. Suicidal.
labrat

Trad climber
Auburn, CA
Apr 2, 2014 - 10:57pm PT
http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cdecapp/resapp/getResGraphsMain.action

Trinity 53% Total Capacity 68% Historical Avg.
Lake Shasta 49%, 60%
Lake Orville 49%, 64%
Folsom 46%, 71%
Don Pedro 53%, 73%
New Melones 43%, 69%
San Louis 42%, 46%

This combined with 1/3 of the average snow measured in the high country...
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Apr 2, 2014 - 10:59pm PT
bluey...I think you would be suprised by how many people would use the train...there's talk about a high speed train from LA to Bishop...rj
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