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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Sep 21, 2013 - 08:17pm PT
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hey there say, riley...
as to this:
So sorry guys
Seems Iike half the world is flooding.
We are in our 17th day of rain here in the rio grande valley
Broke some kind of record
long bad story, but, due to the ex, i never HARDLY EVER hear from my kids,
and have not been on facebook to check, etc, but:
they are in the rio grande valley, as you know, harlingen,
sebastian, and other friends of theirs and relatives, around there,
HOW are they doing, as to the rain???
i will go look this up... i sure know about hurricane season,
in the 'rio grande valley' oh my...
we were through flooding, but not as bad as colorado, and we were not
in the 'colonia's' though some relatives's friends were...
let me know, you can email if you want...
god bless and prayers, to all the folks trying to get
shuck of the mud, get safe water, etc...
very sad to hear of the death, :(
in lyons.... :(
*goatboysmellz/eric... say, email me really quick, please...
all for now, i am babysitting...
will check on my kids, too, by email...
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Sep 21, 2013 - 08:25pm PT
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hey there say, all...
oh my, the dog... in the pictures...
there is something about dogs... lovingly sitting there,
waiting, not EVEN knowing what is going on, but just
wanting to be there...
they can't do a thing, but--they sure are sweet comfort
in the midst of an awful mess...
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Sep 21, 2013 - 10:07pm PT
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I just noticed that my cat has a really bad absess and took him to the 24 hour Vet Emergency Hospital in Longmont. Unfortunately it had been flooded and the whole building is now gutted for repairs. I had to come back home and find another vet. Meanwhile I notice that anywhere near the flooded areas is covered in a layer of dirt now, sometimes only a quarter of an inch thick but it's everywhere. I can't imagine that it's at all healthy to breathe but I doubt it will be cleared off until the spring melt next spring.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Sep 21, 2013 - 10:42pm PT
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hey there say, all...
oh my, the dog... in the pictures...
there is something about dogs... lovingly sitting there,
waiting, not EVEN knowing what is going on, but just
wanting to be there...
they can't do a thing, but--they sure are sweet comfort
in the midst of an awful mess...
Gotta love the dogness. He is just looking at it all and wondering when dinner will be served.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Sep 21, 2013 - 11:43pm PT
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^^^^. Or he might be wondering "A snow-blower for mud?". :-/
Best wishes to all.
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
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Sep 22, 2013 - 01:33am PT
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A couple of friends came over today to help me get to the wet drywall in the basement before mold takes over. The problem was pretty complex in that the previous owner put wood panelling over the drywall. To remove the wood panelling we had to take the nails out of the metal tracks holding up the borders of the acoustic tile ceiling. Not surprisingly, the acoustic tile ceiling wouldn't stay up without the metal track on it's border so we had to take it down as well.
So, just to get to the wet drywall we had to remove all the wood panelling and the entire acoustic ceiling. We then cut two feet of drywall off the bottom and it was a good thing we did as mold had already started growing.
Needless to say, the wood panelling and acoustic ceiling are not going back up!
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Sep 22, 2013 - 09:17am PT
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hey there say, riley...
thanks for the update... texas drought, saw a bit of that, too,
NOT good, :O
sounds very nice there now! then, :)
*jan, i was wondering about all that, as to dirt-coverings, and
as to the mold issues, down there, as well...
(and a hey there to johntp) :)
oh, one more note, just remembered:
i HEARD a gal from colorado, that i used to know say that they had their
well TESTED and it was positive for E coli...
*not sure what part of colorado she lives in, but they did have some flood damage, but it seems minor for them, other than that...
HOW IS the water, down there where you all are?
are many of you city water, or wells???
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fluffy
Trad climber
Colorado
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Sep 22, 2013 - 10:25am PT
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I have one or two extra purple niosh respirators from my days as a stack tester if anyone needs one. I live in boulder, you could swing by and pick one up. Size L I believe.
Be safe!
On a side note my buddy who is here flying missions for various agencies tells me they are going up today to locate suitable sites for the new Boulder FEMA trailer park. Crazy times here.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Sep 22, 2013 - 09:07pm PT
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Great post Crimps TFPU.
Next dirt pile to play in doesn't look too good.
Several hours later...ugly but operational.
Good to go for now..
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Edge
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 2, 2014 - 02:56pm PT
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The road through Jamestown just opened up for local traffic, and since we had a New Years celebration to attend a bit up canyon, we drove it yesterday. Things may look close to normal in Boulder, but the town of Jamestown still has a ways to go.
The road drops to single lane every 200 yards or so with rugged transitions from asphalt to gravel; large sections of the road were completely unrecognizable. It will be a while before the steady stream of road bikes start making the climb. Keep the residents in your thoughts this New Year.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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The Boulder area residents have been on my mind the past couple of days.
Edge
How recent are those pics? Yesterday?
(OUCH!)
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Edge
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 2, 2014 - 03:55pm PT
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HighTraverse, I took them yesterday early afternoon. I'm not sure what the road looked like prior to its limited opening a couple of days ago, but I would guess it was completely impassible. Hopefully now the residents can get the materials, contractors, and supplies they will need to rebuild.
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TLP
climber
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As a fellow mountain resident, I'd say, huge props to folks there in dealing with an incredible event, and huge support for everyone who was and still is affected. But viewing all this from a distance, it is a little alarming how much damage there was from streamflow events which maybe weren't that far outside the range that should be expected. Notwithstanding the huge rain event, some of the actual flooding levels (discharges) weren't very big at all. For example, apparently, for Boulder Creek the max flow was only maybe 40 percent of the flow from the so-called 100-year flood. (Good media discussion here: http://www.boulderweekly.com/article-11652-it-was-major-luck-our-1000-year-rain-event-was-s.htmland one could probably find the original hydrology modeling source easily enough.)
True enough, other creeks may have had more extreme flows. But that's somewhat of a detail. Given that the Front Range has a long history of sudden big floods every few decades, it just seems that there's a LOT of stuff, roads and houses, built where it shouldn't be. Rivers and creeks in big-storm regions need to be allowed a lot of space to do their thing. Sure, it's super expensive to build roads far enough back or with enough large rock or concrete armoring that they're not undercut and washed away, and it's nice to live right by a creek, and it's hugely profitable to the development industry, but I do hope the region will learn from the experience to leave more space in the future and not just rebuild right where stuff was just destroyed.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Exactly. ^^^ Looks like unbridled over developement of Gods country set this up.
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TLP
climber
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Probably a lot of it, but not all. Some of the damage shown on earlier pages of this thread is from debris flows down hillsides, most of which, given the extreme rain event, might have caused damage even with prudent planning and building siting. But all the stuff in the floodplains, that's just asking for trouble. There are so many examples of big floods in recent history of the Front Range that it's just wrong.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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"pave Paradise and put up a parking lot"
I don't think Joni Mitchell was imagining what happens when the deforestation and paving deflect the water downhill. Neither were the planning and zoning departments.
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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"pave Paradise and put up a parking lot"
+ 1
These guys should roast in Environmental hell for what they did there. The municipality engineers that signed off on these building permits should have their accredation revoked. Shameful what they've done to the land and trees.
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