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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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Mar 30, 2012 - 11:56am PT
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Riley Wyna - Dr. F I don't usual agree with you guys ----- but Thank you for standing up for justice & against the sick blatant racism on this thread.
Fattrad I rarely agree with you --- but thank you for trying to stay centered & wait for the facts.
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rockermike
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Mar 30, 2012 - 08:40pm PT
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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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Mar 30, 2012 - 09:50pm PT
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Dude it's stupid on both sides ----
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Mar 30, 2012 - 09:56pm PT
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Jekyll and Hyde
Zimmerman, the 28-year-old Sanford, Fla., neighborhood watch volunteer who shot the unarmed 17-year-old Martin to death last month, was fired from a job securing illegal house parties for “being too aggressive,” according to the New York Daily News, which quoted a former colleague of Zimmerman’s. According to the co-worker, Zimmerman worked for two agencies that provided security for house parties from 2001 to 2005.
“Usually he was just a cool guy,” said the former co-worker, who the newspaper didn't name. “But it was like Jekyll and Hyde. When dude snapped, he snapped.” The Daily News said Zimmerman earned $50 to $100 a night for the parties. He was fired for being too aggressive with patrons.
“He had a temper and he became a liability,” the newspaper quoted the former co-worker as saying. “One time this woman was acting a little out of control. She was drunk. George lost his cool and totally overreacted,” he said. “It was weird, because he was such a cool guy, but he got all nuts. He picked her up and threw her. It was pure rage. She twisted her ankle. Everyone was flipping out.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/30/trayvon-martin-case-george-zimmerman_n_1392591.html
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Mar 30, 2012 - 10:13pm PT
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I was not trying to prove anything
just adding some new information to the mix
is that ok?
do you have to prove something to post on this thread?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Mar 30, 2012 - 10:26pm PT
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no need to ask me when you can answer your own question
why don't you exercise personal responsibility and read the link I provided?
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2012 - 11:58pm PT
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Manazita, You are definatly one totaly sick dude. perhaps winning the grand prize. Meathead dumbass racist of the thread. Quite an accomplishment.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2012 - 07:11am PT
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Please don't insult rednecks like that. Many myself included are damn good people, don't watch NASCAR or buy into the repuglican fantasy....
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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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Mar 31, 2012 - 10:44am PT
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You know the term redneck comes from the coal miners unions. The union men would tie a red scarf around their neck to ID them selfs form the thugs hired by the coal companies.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2012 - 10:56am PT
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I thought it had something to do with working outside and getting the back of your neck sunburned? of course the modern version are mostly wannabes who work @ Wallmart and spend their money on NASCAR stickers....
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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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Mar 31, 2012 - 11:28am PT
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There is no need to prove a ignorant racist wrong.
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michae1
Gym climber
san jose
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Mar 31, 2012 - 11:36am PT
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i have noticed that when some of the people here , don't like or agree with someone it starts to become nothing more then name calling, just saying
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Mar 31, 2012 - 11:51am PT
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when there's no place for reason in a debate, there's is no reason to debate...
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 31, 2012 - 12:03pm PT
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i have noticed that when some of the people here , don't like or agree with someone it starts to become nothing more then name calling, just saying
This forum is not a structured moderated debate forum.
It's still the wild west. There's gunslingers at every turn.
If you're shot at better duck or shoot back. :-)
If you want to debate in a civil matter then go to court with a judge to moderate.
If you can't handle some peoples replies then just skip over them and ignore them.
Or are you that weak and fall apart if someone calls you an idiot, stupid or moron?
Americans are stupid .... :-)
lol
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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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Mar 31, 2012 - 12:07pm PT
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There are some far right folks on this thread that have questioned what happened & have said wait for things to sort them selfs out, without showing any racism. With those people I can have a discussion. With out right sick racist there is no room for discussion. All you can do is point out what they are.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Mar 31, 2012 - 01:02pm PT
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That kid in the hoodie looked suspicious, so what. Call 911 whine about it and forget it.
The idiot ignored his instructions and training and went after the kid. He created a confrontation that did not exist, it was not needed.
If the kid was being an ass and the guy with the guy was being an ass and the kid hit the guy in the nose, the guy shot him dead.
There's the evidence. The kid is dead. The guy killed him because he failed to use common sense and follow the rules. He is protected by a law that was not intended for use in this situation. He needs to be prosecuted on those grounds. He's wide open for civil prosecution.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-case-video-shows-injury-george-zimmermans/story?id=16055412#.T3nrtvBSS8A
New report supports Zimmerman's claim that he had a significant injury to the back of his head at time of arrest.
This doesn't fully exonerates him, but it supports the guess as to what happened that many of us have: Zimmerman was being a weird jerk related at least in part to wannabe cop syndrome complete with racial profiling, a fight ensued, and the guy with the gun is suspected of murder of the guy without the gun is dead.
A big unknown is how much Trayvon was a completely innocent victim and how much did he escalated situation that was, at least initially, not of his own making. We'll probably never get to the bottom of that one.
While this is an interesting case, I'm not sure why it's captivated the American public.
Check this out for a recent, crazy hate crime that seems a lot more shocking to me:
http://kdvr.com/2012/04/01/man-shot-to-death-after-early-morning-traffic-altercation/
Maybe no one cares because no whites involved (as victims or perps)?
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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If Obama had a son, he'd look like Trayvon...
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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"Maybe no one cares because no whites involved (as victims or perps)?"
Or maybe because they are some POS Gang Bangers, Drug Dealers or some other from of criminal that is killed and visits most large ERs on most days in America?
No, the victim in the Denver case I referred to was a black immigrant from Sudan, who was gunned down in front of his family by Hispanics (in a stolen car) who had thrown bottles at the black guy and yelled the N word.
They had the black guy's brother on the local TV news--he held the victim in has arms as he died. I know nothing about the black guy or his family, but pretty outrageous that you suggest that he may have been a gang banger or drug dealer. Absolutely zero evidence of that. (And remember, your favorite victim Trayvon was under suspension for drugs.)
The victim in the Denver caase had called the police, who told him to wait at a certain place for police to arrive. But by killers were faster than the police. Maybe a lesson for some of you liberals who don't think people should worry about their safety--just call cops if there's any trouble?
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