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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Whatever little man.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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No chief I haven't. Is that important to you?
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Braunini
Big Wall climber
cupertino
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Whatever little man
Sick burn
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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So chief,
Need the answer to what "institute" you speak of, picture will do.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Detained for 14 months in solitary?
If they wanted a forced confession they could have just water boarded him. Would have been much faster
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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One last question and then I'm out. If this isn't just a PR stunt then
why did he suddenly become so 'valuable' after 5 years? We've been talking
to the Taliban through back channels on a number of issues for a long time.
Possibly some metric of theirs changed to cause them to want to get rid of him
but the cynic in me says we sweetened the deal because it was now deemed 'worthy'.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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The whole 'we don't leave anyone behind' is a MILITARY CREED.
Good they got the man out. I remember when he went over the fence and got snatched. Some of us remembered him.
DMT
Your memory may not be quite right.
The reports from the people who were there is that he left his outpost looking to hook up with English-speaking Taliban (this is based on reports from locals who spoke with him).
He got exactly what he was looking for, no "snatching" involved.
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Braunini
Big Wall climber
cupertino
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P.S. For you legal experts
Rule 920, Manual for Courts-Martial, United States, 2012 edition
(A) The accused must be presumed to be innocent until the accused’s guilt is established by legal and competent evidence beyond reasonable doubt;
(B) In the case being considered, if there is a reasonable doubt as to the guilt of the accused, the doubt must be resolved in favor of the accused and the accused must be acquitted;
(C) If, when a lesser included offense is in issue, there is a reasonable doubt as to the degree of guilt of the accused, the finding must be in a lower degree as to which there is not reasonable doubt; and
(D) The burden of proof to establish the guilt of the accused is upon the Government. [When the issue of lack of mental responsibility is raised, add: The burden of proving the defense of lack of mental responsibility by clear and convincing evidence is upon the accused. When the issue of mistake of fact under R.C.M. 916(j)(2) or (j)(3) is raised, add: The accused has the burden of proving the defense of mistake of fact as to consent or age by a preponderance of the evidence
Now let's argue about quantum physics
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Braunini
Big Wall climber
cupertino
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Chief -
I understand why you are saying that and I don't disagree
Just wanted to get the black and white out there for all the civilian UCMJ experts
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Seeing as I'm not constrained by the UCMJ assumption of innocence, I'll go ahead and assume he's definitely a deserter, and most likely a traitor. And I'll do this prior to any judicial proceedings.
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PSP also PP
Trad climber
Berkeley
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To bad he didn't know he could have just declared CO status.
Re: the WW2 deserters, the author says the frontline officers rarely court martialed the deserters because they knew it was due to psychological trama that they deserted. It was the backline guys that did the court martialing.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Seems like all the guys who served with him are saying the same thing, Mr Milktoast. I haven't read of one with a different outlook.
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Getting bored, taking a walk? I can see it.
In Basic Training, there were many nights, I'd slip out and head for the OC. Pretty cool eh? E1 AUS goes into the OC for drinks. But I had a college degree and sounded like a 2d looey. But then it was in NJ, I never got snatched.
The maggots in my BCT Brigade, would leave the f*#king buffer for me in the main walkway down the center of the bunks, all the trainees had to walk down the sides. They'd put down the wax on their hands and knees. I had the touch with the buffer, drunk, I could put up a shine on it that never had my company on the shitlist.
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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No PR. Name the one in Panama think about that first before you respond, picture will do.
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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Just what I thought Chief, Clueless.
It was Ronnie Reagan that took Foreign Policy to a whole new level when he was president. He wanted every commie killed jailed, tortured, burn to death or disappear from the face of this earth and had it done by any means necessary.
He is responsible for the destruction of most of Africa. In 2015 Chadian [once a dictator] Habré will come to trial or set to appear before a special Senegalese court for crimes against humanity torturing and murdering his own people by the thousands; thanks for the help and support Reagan provided.
Reagan’s biggest crime was having thousands of Central Americans killed by using the same methods funding these little wars mostly hidden from Congress. One that comes to mind is the part that this As4hole had.
Lebanon hostage crisis. Chief you awake “Iran”
Poindexter and North uses National Security Council (NSC) computer to communicate, they were able to send messages back and forth without being intercepted; when word came they both tried to delete most of the messages but some were found forcing him to resign from his position as National Security Advisor. He gets convicted of conspiracy, lying to Congress, obstruction of justice, and altering and destroying documents pertinent to the [Iran/Contra] investigation. Ollie North same story both get slaps on the hands.
One would think that story ended and is long gone: They just got started.
Get the Commies now it is get the terrorists. Has been for quite a while.
Bush Sr. continues supplying and aiding with same or adding dictators to the list. Middle East # one area.
Years go by until new crisis 911. You would wonder Why?
Poindexter served as the Director of the DARPA Information; developed Genoa, a surveillance device that's a combination cutting-edge search engine, sophisticated information harvesting program", and a "peer-to-peer" file sharing system.
Also helped a few harvest systems there: Information Awareness Office [IAO] or Total information Awareness [TIA] also known as Terrorism Information Awareness Office.
“The IAO was established after Admiral John Poindexter, former United States National Security Advisor to President Ronald Reagan, and SAIC executive Brian Hicks approached the US Department of Defense with the idea for an information awareness program after the attacks of September 11, 2001.”
He also creates his own companies and helps other businesses with the same ideas aimed to counter asymmetric threats [most notably, terrorist threats] by achieving total information awareness and thus aiding preemption; national security warning; and, national security decision making. As in listening, looking and spying on everyone who needs to be spied on, listen to and looked at.
Got fired or let go because his assessment of Iraq having WMD was wrong. He took a guess that he would most likely have them. We should have gone into Pakistan nothing there, President Cheney wanted the oil.
WIKI: Policy Analysis Market
Poindexter faced criticism from the media and some politicians about the Policy Analysis Market project, a theoretical prediction market that would have rewarded participants for accurately predicting geopolitical trends in the Middle East and elsewhere. This was portrayed in the media as allowing participants to profit from the assassination of heads of state and acts of terrorism due to such events being mentioned on illustrative sample screens showing the interface. The controversy over the proposed futures market led to a Congressional audit of the IAO in general. Funding for the IAO was subsequently cut and Poindexter retired from DARPA on August 12, 2003.
Has a part in Science Applications International Corporation the people who created “Stargate” and kept some of the secrets [Classified] rather than shred this time.
He currently is the head of BrightPlanet created it, also known as “deep-web.org” and helps runs it. They do the same as in the “dark-web.net”
“The deep web contains government reports, databases, and other sources of information of high value to the Department of Defense and the intelligence community,” said a 2010 Defense Science Board report. Alternative tools are needed to find and index data in the deep web … Stealing the classified secrets of a potential adversary is where the [intelligence] community is most comfortable.”
As for the “dark-web.net” I suggest since most use Mcgoogle for search: do not hit the link or take a peak. There are ways around it but you would need to know how. You might see CNN take on this and other lists on links that talk about it: hit them you are safe.
Go ahead Chief hit dark-web.net you know what you are doing have some fun.
Both of you; Chief and Ron want to change the system blame Obama for all your ailments well all your pain and sufferings have to do with the above because they took part, created it and are the System.
Good luck on, creating your armies just need to know who are you shooting at.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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I went to darkweb and there is nothing clickable there?
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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That place was the School of the Americas also known as School of Assassins. First there then moved to Ft. Benning. Nixon’s time as well as Carter. Carter changed that.
Back in the mid 70’s people knew that there was going to be a new war: the Holy War even though this have been going on for years some hundreds. Not only did we not do anything about it and as usual we acted too late, aided the wrong dictators making it worse, the wrong decisions and still do.
Palestine and Israel for one. Can we at least stop them from building condos.
We helped the Taliban then we turned our backs on them.
And as for that dark-web.net a warning; funny they never had it a few months ago.
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fluffy
Trad climber
Colorado
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Somewhere in all that mess of info of ops in Nicargua you posted, is this guy, the rebel Mujahideen/Taliban tribes and the entire Al Qaeda network...
You keep bringing this up...what is your point? That OBL and 'al Qaeda' were borne of failed American policy in Afghanistan? Totally agree. We used them and abandoned them, and left weapons and highly trained personnel to use them. Who were angry at us.
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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I would not worry about the NSA looking at you BrightPlanet is already.
Next time you get stopped for a ticket and that local law enforcement cop don't like the way you answered his question he will take a photo of you.
The other reason when you go and have your drivers license no smile; Reason facial recognition so goes into the data base.
I will look through the manual and find something good just for Sh%t heads like you. This way your next meeting with your guys you will have show and tell. Some might bring back memories.
I thought for sure you would come up with this:
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I think it was a moral imperative to go get him and bring him back to the US. He is a sh!thead but he is our sh!thead and he took a legally binding oath when he raised his right hand
Let us know!