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BASE1361
climber
Yosemite Valley National Park
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May 26, 2012 - 04:40pm PT
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I agree Ammon. You can even see in the video the orange warning sticker on the passenger that should be tight to the TM chest. It almost looks like she's also coming out of the top of the harness.
Of the 3 DZ's I've jumped at this vid was a shocker. Not one of the TM's at each DZ would have exited the plane with her fighting that much.
Hope to see ya soon.
p.s.
I wonder if she was even conscious during FF? People do pass-out and if she was that scared, her sympathetic system in overdrive just shutting her down.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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May 26, 2012 - 04:40pm PT
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Pretty crazy stuff. maybe the instructor was ex military jumpmaster and not used to dealing with the civilin type situation where a boot in the arse is not always the best solution?
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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May 26, 2012 - 04:46pm PT
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I haven't tandem skydived. I did static line to free-fall progression.
But I can't help but think that once a paying (or non-paying) passenger has second thoughts sitting in the door about taking "The Long Lonely Leap," isn't an instructor obligated to stop and back-up? How can he just fight over this decision and jump anyway? Seems unethical and morally wrong.
Also seems the tandem harness needs to be redesigned so no passenger can back-out of a harness or wiggle out no matter what they do.
My buckle-less "Thin Redline" paragliding harness is very difficult to get into, and when you have everything secured properly, I'm not coming out in any direction. In case of a water landing I will have to cut my way out with a cutaway knife.
Man that was a scary video to watch. I thought she was going to plummet sans harness, instructor, and parachute. Yikes!!!
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ElCapPirate
Big Wall climber
California
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May 27, 2012 - 01:44pm PT
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Yeah Ron, I know what you mean. They sent a whole load down once at the Couch Freaks Boogie a few years back because of too many clouds. I was GRIPPED! Thought we were going to crash.
Usually, on an observer ride they dive the plane for about 10k' because they make more money the faster they can pick up more jumpers. Pretty thrilling but quite scary if you don't know it's coming, ha haa.
I love Bill's comment on the Yahoo report: "This happened a long time ago and everything worked as advertised," said Parachute Center owner Bill Dause in a statement to ABC News. "No one got hurt or injured."
Too funny! No wonder he's been in a bad mood lately.
http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/80-old-womans-skydiving-trip-hell-201811864--abc-news-topstories.html
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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May 27, 2012 - 10:43pm PT
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#3 Thunderbird, Right wing.
Maj. Caroline Jensen, and Staff Sgt. Tacota LeMuel
yeah, the USAF tends to go for overkill on photo resolution.
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ElCapPirate
Big Wall climber
California
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May 28, 2012 - 08:41am PT
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Uh, a little late stich... look up thread
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Vegasclimber
Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
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Topic Author's Reply - May 29, 2012 - 02:41am PT
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Ammon...when ISN'T Bill in a bad mood?!
Day one there, after a half hour: "you pack too slow, you're fired"
Ten minutes later: "Quit standing around and get back to work!"
Lol...good old Bill.
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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May 29, 2012 - 11:36am PT
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I used to do a ton of tandems, and no way should anyone fall out of the harness. That will be operator error.
It is common to ride to altitude without the hip attachments undone. It is just too uncomfortable. However you give yourself plenty of time before exit to run through the checklist.
Lots of studies have been done, and any one of the four main points of attachment is sufficient to keep both harnesses attached during freefall.
In tandem master school, it is more or less a bunch of experienced skydivers trying everything to kill each other. Grabbing hands, not getting the drogue out. Full blown karate fights in free fall.
It is all fun.
The normal MO is this: When you are all rigged up and at the door, there is no going back. It is too dangerous to bring an active rig into the plane.
We used to do that with static line jumps as well. We would go out and pry their fingers from the strut.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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The lone remaining Dornier 24 is back in the air, albeit with updated PT-6's.
Dornier DO-24
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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"The U.S. government's secret space program has decided to give NASA two telescopes as big as, and even more powerful than, the Hubble Space Telescope. Designed for surveillance, the telescopes from the National Reconnaissance Office were no longer needed for spy missions and can now be used to study the heavens. They have 2.4-meter (7.9 feet) mirrors, just like the Hubble. They also have an additional feature that the civilian space telescopes lack: A maneuverable secondary mirror that makes it possible to obtain more focused images. These telescopes will have 100 times the resolving power of the Hubble, according to David Spergel, a Princeton astrophysicist and co-chair of the National Academies advisory panel on astronomy and astrophysics."
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Jun 17, 2012 - 03:19am PT
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http://news.yahoo.com/mystery-mini-space-shuttle-x-37b-lands-california-154330257.html
Mystery Mini Space Shuttle X-37B Lands in California
The mysterious unmanned mini-space shuttle on a classified mission has finally returned to earth.
It landed early Saturday morning at Vandenberg Air Force Base in California after weather conditions kept pushing back landing attempts the last few days.
The Air Force's X-37B, is an unmanned reusable spacecraft built by Boeing that has spent more than a year on a classified mission in space.
Measuring 29 feet in length and having a 15-foot wingspan, the unmanned reusable X-37B Orbital Test Vehicle looks like a miniature version of NASA's now retired space shuttles.
The spacecraft landed at Vandenberg at 5:48am PDT after having spent 469 days in orbit.
The craft went into orbit on March 5, 2011, but as was the case during its first launch in 2010, very little has been known about its mission or what payloads it might be carrying because its missions are classified.
That has led to speculation that the spacecraft is involved in intelligence gathering operations or the testing of new technologies.
In keeping with the scarce mission details for the X-37B, all the Air Force would say in a statement Saturday wais that the spacecraft had "conducted on-orbit experiments" during its mission.
Lt. Col. Tom McIntyre, the X-37B program manager said, "With the retirement of the Space Shuttle fleet, the X-37B OTV program brings a singular capability to space technology development." He added, "The return capability allows the Air Force to test new technologies without the same risk commitment faced by other programs. We're proud of the entire team's successful efforts to bring this mission to an outstanding conclusion."
Even the initial announcement about an upcoming landing details kept the details vague. A May 30 Air Force statement said the spacecraft would return to earth in the "early- to mid-June time frame."
Designed to stay in extended Earth orbits, the X-37B remained in orbit for 224 days during its maiden mission in 2010.
This mission kept it in orbit more than twice as long this time around.
An Air Force statement announcing Saturday's landing says the X37B will launch again later this fall aboard an Atlas V booster.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Social climber
Retired in Appalachia
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Jun 17, 2012 - 07:36am PT
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Jet Chicks are hot.
Q: Why can't a chick be a pilot?
A: Because it's a COCKPIT not a BOX OFFICE
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Q: Why can't a chick fly upside-down?
A: Because then she'd have a hairy crack up.
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Naval Aviator to Air Farce guy: "Flare to land, squat to pee."
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Social climber
Retired in Appalachia
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Jun 17, 2012 - 02:06pm PT
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"A Brazilian airline says one of its female pilots tossed a passenger off a flight because he was making sexist comments about women flying planes.
"Trip Airlines says in a Tuesday statement the pilot ejected the man before takeoff as he made loud, sexist comments upon learning the pilot was a woman. The jet continued on to the state of Goias after a one-hour delay...."
Female pilot tosses passenger for sexist remarks
Q: Why shouldn't women fly airplanes?
A: Because they have bad tempers
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