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Apr 24, 2018 - 10:38am PT
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Tar, maybe, baby: yes!
One day, parked right at the corner of the block where Salto stands, I saw a Lamborghini, and yes, an actual Maclaren, and some other wedge shaped exotic.
A handy triumvirate for your Matchbox set!
Somewhere in the neighborhood is a guy with a red 70's Lotus Esprit.
One of those models where the drive belts would get all tangled up. IIRC, they were prone to overheating as well.
WTF: what's an exotic without headaches?
(answer: a Corvette!)
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Apr 24, 2018 - 11:31am PT
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OCD alert!
Just got all my old man's dash plaques polished up and recorded.
They were handed out to turn workers and racers, but the complementary heirlooms stopped being produced after 1980.
He kept attending races until RIR closed in 1989.
Starting in 1966 and going through 1989, that's 23 years hanging out at turns, waving oil and passing flags, and yanking cars off the road course.
I was 6 years old when he started, but my grandfather introduced him to Riverside before I was born.
Did a few at a time over the last year. Didn't count up a total, but as you can see, he went to a lot of races!
There are about a dozen missing, which I had attached to a plaque made out of black walnut that I made in wood shop, seventh grade, 1972.
Rodger had me rip them all off, and some were pretty rumpled, and got thrown out somewhere along the line.
Most of these are approximately 1.5" x 2.75 " rectangles.
The ones that were destroyed were much larger, and more ornate, thus my idea of applying them to a display plaque.
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Example of his first race working as a turn Marshall at Santa Barbara, in 1966.
An interesting one from the San Diego region, Holtville, and the last from Riverside, in 1980:
Rodger McClenahan Road Racing Dash Plaques
(conferred to turn marshals and drivers)
1966
1966 American Road Race of Champions, Riverside International Raceway (RIR)
1966-7-23/4 National Championship Point Road Races, CSCC Region, SCCA, RIR
1966-8-13/14 Regional Sprint Races & 6 Hour Enduro, CSCC Region, SCCA, RIR
1966-9-3/4 Santa Barbara Road Races, 26th Running
1967
1967 The Times Grand Prix, FIA, SCCA, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR
1967-4-21/23 USRRC & Regional Point Races, Stardust international Raceway, Las Vegas
1967-4-29/30 USRRC & Regional Point Races, RIR
1967-7-1/2 Regional Sprint Races & 6 Hour Enduro, CSCC Region, SCCA, RIR
1967-8-5/6 National Championship Point Road Races, CSCC Region, SCCA, RIR
1967-9-16/17 Trans American Championship & Regional Races, RIR
1967-10-21/22 First Pacific Invitational Grand Prix, San Diego Region
1967-11-10/12 Stardust Grand Prix, Stardust International Raceway
1968
1968-2-24/25 National and Regional Point Races, CSCC Region SCCA, Stardust Raceway Las Vegas
1968-4-26/28 USRRC & Regional Championship Point Races, RIR
1968-8-3/4 National Championship Point Races, CSCC Region, SCCA, RIR
1968-8-31/9-1 Santa Barbara Road Races, 29th Running
1968-6-1/2 Willow Springs Regional Point Road Races, CSCC Region SCCA
1968- 11-22/24 5th American Road Race of Champions, RIR
1968 The Times Grand Prix, FIA, CSCC Region SCCA,RIR
1968- 12-7/8 Holtville Road Races
1969
1969-4-12/13 Holtville International Raceway Aerodrome, San Diego Region
1969-4-19/20 Regional & Continental Championship Road Races, RIR
1969-5-31/6-1 Santa Barbara Road Races, 30th running
1969-7-4/6 Enduro & Regional Point Races, Willow Springs
1969-8-2/3 CSCC Region SCCA National Point Races, Willow Springs
1969-9-27/28 National Championship Road Races, RIR
1969 The Times Grand Prix, FIA, CSCC Region SCCA,RIR
1969-10-4/5 Mission Bell 250 & Regional Road Races, RIR
1969-11-9 San Diego Region, Regional Race
1970
1970-2-7/8 Regional Point Races, CSC C Region SCCA,RIR
1970-3-14/15 CSCC Region, SCCA National Point Races, Willow Springs
1970-4-4/5 San Diego Region, Regional Race
1970-4-18/19 California Sports Car Club Regional Championship and Races,RIR
1970-5-29/31 Regional and National Championship Races,RIR
1970 9-18/20 1st SCCA Challenge Cup Road Races, Regional/National, Ontario Motor Speedway
1970-10-3/4 Mission Bell 200 & Regional Road Races, RIR
1970-12-12/13 The Battle at Willow Springs, North vs. South Divisional Showdown
1970 SCCA National, Holtville Aerodrome International Raceway
1971
1971-1-30/31 Holtville, San Diego Region, Aerodrome International Raceway
1971-2-13/15 The President' s Weekend, Regional & National Championship Races, CSC C/SCCA RIR
1971-13/14 The Ides of March, Willow Springs National Point Races, Cal Club/SCCA
1971-3-28 The First Questor Grand Prix, Formula 1 & Formula A Cars, FIA, SCCA, Cal Club, Ontario Motor Speedway
1971-16/18 Regional and National Championship Races, RIR
1971 14th Annual, The Times Grand Prix, Canadian-American Challenge Cup, FIA, SCCA, Cal Club Region, RIR
1971-10-1/3 Mission Bell 200, Trans Am, RIR
1971-10 Monterrey Grand Prix, Can-Am
1972
1972-2-11/13 Regional and National Championship Races
1972-3-11/12 San Diego Region, Holtville Aerodrome International Raceway
1972-4-8/9 Regional Sports Car Races, RIR
1972-4-22/23 CSCC Region SCCA National Point Races, Willow Springs
1972-5-6/7 Continental 5000 Championship, Laguna Seca, SCCA, San Francisco Region
1972-5-27/29 Falstaff American Races, RIR
1972-7-15/16 Regional Championship Races, RIR
1972-8-19/20 Regional Championship Sports Car Races, RIR
1972-9-23/24 L&M Continental 5000, Formula B & Regional Races, RIR
1972 15th Annual, The Times Grand Prix, Canadian-American Challenge Cup, FIA, SCCA, Cal Club Region, RIR
1972-10-13/15 Can-Am, Laguna Seca, SCCA San Francisco Region
1972-11-11/12 The Battle at Riverside Raceway, North vs. South Divisional Showdown
1972-12-9/10 Regional Championship Races, CSC C Region SCCA, RIR
1973
1973-3-17 St. Patrick's Day Parade Cal Club Regionals, RIR
1973-4-1 April Fools' Day Races, Cal Club Region SCCA, RIR
1973-4-15 Wonderful Willow Springs Nationals, Cal Club, SCCA
1973-5-4/5/6 L&M Championship/4 Regional Races, Laguna Seca, SCCA, San Francisco Region
1973-10-12/13/14 Monterrey Castrol GTX Grand Prix, Laguna Seca Raceway, SCCA, San Francisco Region
1973 16th annual Times Grand Prix, FIA, SCCA, Cal Club Region, RIR
1974
1974-7-13/14 Regional Championship Races, CSCC region SCCA, Ontario Motor Speedway
1974-8-17/18 National Championship Races, CSCC region SCCA, Ontario Motor Speedway
1974-9-1 California Grand Prix, CSCC region SCCA, Ontario motor Speedway
1974-9-14/15 Regional Championship Races, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR 2.55 mile ‘short course’
1974-9-28/29 Regional Road Races, Flagging SCCA San Francisco Region, Laguna Seca
1974-10-5/6 Regional Championship Races, CSCC Region SCCA, Willow Springs international Raceway
1974-10-11/13 SF regional, SCCA San Francisco Region, Laguna Seca
1974-10-26/27 Formula 5000, IROC, Regional Races, CSCC region SCCA, RIR
1975
1975-3-22/23 Holtville Aerodrome International Raceway, San Diego Region
1975-4-12/13 Thomas Jefferson's Day National Championship Races, Willow Springs Int'l. Raceway
1975-5-23 Fourth Annual American Road Races, Memorial Day, Cal Club SCCA, RIR
1975-7-5/6 National Championship Races, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR
1975-8-30/31 Regional Championship Races, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR
1975-10-4/5 Regional Championship Races, Willow Springs International Raceway
1975-10-10/12 Monterrey Grand Prix, Laguna Seca, San Francisco Region, SCCA
1975-12-6/7 Regional Championship Races, Willow Springs international Raceway, CSCC Region SCCA
1976
1976-2-14/15 National Championship Races, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR
1976-4-10/11 National Championship Races, Willow Springs International Raceway
1976-5-29/30/31 Falstaff American Races, Regional and National Championship Races, SCCA, RIR
1976-7-3/4/5 Riverside Regional & National Championship Races, American Revolution Bicentennial, CSCC Region SCCA
1976-11-6/7 Regional Championship Races, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR
1977
1977-1-29/30 Regional Championship Races, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR
1977-2-12/13 National Championship Races, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR
1977-3-12/13 Regional Championship Races, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR
1977-4-9/10 National Championship Races, CSCC Region SCCA, Willow Springs International Raceway
1977-5-28/29/30 Regional and National Championship Races, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR
1977-2/3/4 Regional and National Championship Races, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR
1977-9-17/18 Regional Championship Races, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR
1977-10-15/16 The Pepsi-Cola California Grand Prix, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR
1978
1978-1-28/29 Regional Championship Races, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR
1978-2-11/12 National Championship Races, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR
1978-5-27/29 USRRC, National and Regional Championship Races, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR
1978-7-1/2 USRRC, Championship Races, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR
1978-10-14/15 Regional Championship Races, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR
1979
1979-2-10/11 National Championship Races, SCCA, RIR
1979-3-10/11 Regional Championship Races, SCCA, RIR
1979-4-14/15 National Championship Races, SCCA, Willow Springs International Raceway
1979-5-26/28 Bonus National and Regional Championship Races, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR
1979-6-30/7-1 National Championship Races, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR
1979-10-27/28 Regional Championship Races/IROC--Can Am, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR
1979-11-3/4 Enduro/Sprint Races, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR
1980
1980-1-26/27 Regional Championship Races, Happy New Year, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR
1980-5-24/26 Bonus National and Regional Championship Races, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR
1980-7-4/6 National and Regional Championship Races, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR
1980-10-24/26 Budweiser GP Championship Races, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR
1980-11-1/2 Regional Championship Races, CSCC Region SCCA, Willow Springs International Raceway
1980-11-22/23 Regional Championship Races, CSCC Region SCCA, RIR
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Photograph from my mother's archives, passed down by my grandfather, Charles Fitzsimmons:
Can only imagine it's from Bonneville Salt Flats,
Or some desert dry lake in California, which is more likely.
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guyman
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Apr 24, 2018 - 11:54am PT
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Roy..... Your Father gave a lot back to a sport he loved. Working corners, by volunteering, gets one a great seat.
Did he ever do any F1?
IIRC you mentioned a F5000 race, first "LBGP" maybe?
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Apr 24, 2018 - 12:02pm PT
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Yeah, he did all of the Long Beach races, until he retired.
I went to the first one.
James Hunt & McLaren F1:
For those events, patches were given out:
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Reilly
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Apr 24, 2018 - 06:02pm PT
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Very cool stuff about yer pa, Roy. Thanks for the effort.
BTW, 7 April was the 50th anniversary of Jimmy Clark’s passing. Nice bit on BBC today.
Dunno why they broadcast it today. He was special. In fact, The Times (London) put him as #1 all time. Funny thing, in the recordings they played his accent sounded almost like a BBC presenter’s, not that of a Scots farmer. Anyway, one interview was particularly telling. He said if he wanted to go faster he said he just tried to concentrate harder. Clark achieved 33 pole positions and won 25 races from his 72 Grands Prix starts in championship races. Quite impressive. His gravestone lists him as a farmer first, then a race car driver, per his wishes.
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Apr 24, 2018 - 06:50pm PT
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No doubt, Jim Clark's death broke a lot of hearts!
And I don't just mean the hearts of the crumpets, as Stirling Moss affectionately called the femmes du jour.
Yeah, farmer first, driver second. What a romantic. And an extremely capable one!
($29 on eBay)
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Reilly
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Apr 29, 2018 - 08:01am PT
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Actually had some racing today! Hard luck for Bottas and poetic justice for Lewis after Melboune.
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Winemaker
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Yakima, WA
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Apr 29, 2018 - 01:39pm PT
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Man, you guys stir up some memories. This is from when I ran a race business in Kent, Washington; it was taken at Seattle International Raceway during an IRDC race. That's me on the left; the guy on the right is Bob Boenish, Carl's brother. He used to really help me out running cars at races.
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Winemaker said:
This is from when I ran a race business in Kent, Washington.
So what was the business? I take it you fielded cars?
I bet you have a hell of an archive.
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2018 F1, race #2, Bahrain
The track, Bahrain International Circuit:
The surface of the track is made of graywacke aggregate, shipped to Bahrain from Bayston Hill quarry in Shropshire, England. The surface material is highly acclaimed by circuit bosses and Formula 1 drivers for the high level of grip it offers. The same aggregate material is used at the Yas Marina Circuit for the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix.[12] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahrain_International_Circuit
Vettel's 200th GP start
Hamilton's 100th race appearance for Mercedes
Provisional Grid Order (not from my notes of the actual race/unsure if that's exactly how it lined up)
1 Sebastian Vettel - Ferrari
2 Kimi Raikkonen - Ferrari
3 Valtteri Bottas - Mercedes
4 Daniel Ricciardo - Red Bull
5 Pierre Gasly - Toro Rosso
6 Kevin Magnussen - Haas
The race, from my own notes: (beware inaccuracies)
At the start:
Vettel and Räikkönen at the front off the grid. Right off the line, Bottas takes Räikkönen, cars three abreast fairly deep into the field going into those initial turns: gotta love a modern, purpose built race course! Bahrain is apparently a good track for passing: very wide in places.
Verstappen takes Vettel! (From 15th on the grid!) Verstappen soon punctures, then Ricciardo drops out with a mechanical, because that's what he does; crap. After the safety car, lots of passing including triple overtaking involving Hamilton and others.
lap 9, Hamilton is in fourth.
lap 16, Magnussen in his Ferrari powered Haas racing gets Sirotkin in his Williams.
lap 17, Hülkenberg /Renault overtakes Sirotkin, then Alonso.
lap 21 most of the field goes in for tires.
This is the most chaotic thing in modern F1 racing for the spectator: tire stops!
It's like a reshuffle of the deck, and the spectator pretty much has to twiddle thumbs before realizing what the outcome will be. Back in the day, saving tires for the entire race was just part of the job. Times change. Get with it or be frustrated!
Tires have always been one of the critical factors in motor racing.
But it used to be, where open wheel racing was concerned, only Indy cars did tire stops do to the extreme length of the races.
lap 23 Hamilton in the lead.
lap 26 Vettel takes the lead from Hamilton, but does it exiting the pit lane, during the safety car lap.
lap 28 Hamilton goes in for tires, finally.
Mercedes is on the long game, going for just one stop.
Ferrari is on a two stop strategy, opting for a series of sprints and attacks.
lap 34 Vettel in the lead.
lap 36 Räikkönen has an unsafe pit release and a mechanic goes down!!!
(L) rear hadn't been swapped: I missed practice & qualifying, but apparently this was the second pit incident for Ferrari of the weekend.
lap 44 Martin Brundle gives a tires talk, delineating the one-stop versus two stop strategy. (But Vettel never takes his second stop).
(Brundle: F1 driver from 1984-89 & 1991-96, 9 podiums, no wins, no championships, commentator for 21 years)
lap 44 front runners: Vettel/Bottas/Hamilton.
lap 45 Alonso (McLaren) takes Ericson in the Alfa Romeo powered Sauber (didn't note the actual positions).
lap 52 Vettel slowing: interval = Bottas +3.2, Hamilton +11.8
lap 54 Bottas trails Vettel by 1.6 seconds
lap 55 Vettel/Bottas interval 1.051 seconds
lap 56 interval .7 seconds
Last lap, 57, Bottas tries for Vettel in turn one, the prime overtaking spot on the circuit ("Michael Schumacher turn"), but no go.
Ex-Formula One driver (10 wins, no championships) Gerhard Berger waves checkered flag!
Vettel had been on the same tires (yellow) since lap 18. If he hadn't overtaken Hamilton during the safety car lap as he exited the pits, he probably wouldn't have won the race. And he conceded as much after the race.
On the radio, Vettel: "Tires were done for the last 10 laps"
At the podium, or just prior, Vettel said: "At that last 10 laps I said on the radio: everything is under control … And that was a lie! Ha ha!"
Toro Rosso driver Gasly finished well with a pass just before the finish.
Fernando Alonso fourth in the world championships.
Finishing order
1) Vettel
2) Bottas
3) Hamilton (from 9th position on the grid, due to gearbox penalty)
4) Gasly (voted driver of the day)
5) Magnussen
6) Hülkenberg
7) Alonso (encouraging to see Alonso and McLaren creeping forward)
A lap in a Formula One car:
The DRS zone is on the pit straight at the Bahrain Grand Prix (starting 2012), so turn 1 ("Michael Schumacher turn") is the prime overtaking opportunity. The corner itself is incredibly tight; a typical F1 car must brake approximately 100 metres before the corner and shift right down to gear one. The width of the track further adds to the overtaking possibilities.[13] Turns 2 and 3 are flat out and gaining a good exit can set up an overtaking opportunity into turn 4. The straight leading to turn 4 is very long, and the track at the corner itself is incredibly wide, at about thirty metres.[13] Turns 5, 6 and 7 make up a high-speed left-right-left "S" section that leads into turn 8, a right-hand hairpin where taking a wide line can avoid the bump on the apex which unsettles the car.[14] Turns 9 and 10 are very challenging as they are two blind left-handers where cars must brake, downshift and turn simultaneously - they go from 205 km/h in gear 5 down to 63 km/h in gear 1 whilst trying to avoid locking up their inside front tyres.[13] The back straight leads down into turns 11, 12 and 13, a medium-speed complex of corners. Turn 11 is a fourth-gear left hander that leads immediately into the flat-out right hander of 12, then the third gear right-hander of turn 13 which requires a good exit to gain speed down the following straight. It is worth braking quite early for turn 14 to gain speed down the main straight.[14] If you brake about 100 metres before the apex then it is easy to keep it tidy through the slow right hander and you can also put the power down early, and gain speed all the way through turn 15 and the main straight (which is the DRS zone).
The lap record (which only accounts for laps set in a race) on the current layout of the Grand Prix circuit was set in 2005 by Pedro de la Rosa at 1:31.447,[1] in what was the only fastest lap in his 104-race career.[15] Michael Schumacher set a faster time of 1:30.252 at the 2004 edition of the race, but alterations to turn 4 of the track meant that it was counted as a different layout from 2005 onwards.[1] The fastest time ever set at the track was produced by Sebastian Vettel during qualifying for the 2018 edition at 1:27.958, beating the previous record by Valtteri Bottas, set during qualifying for the 2017 edition (1:28.769).[16] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahrain_International_Circuit
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Reilly
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“Hey, Fernando, whaddya coming in for? Ayrton woulda stayed out and raced!”
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G_Gnome
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It was pretty amazing that he actually got that thing into the pit box. Then to take that wreck back out and finish 7th was spectacular.
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Reilly
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May 13, 2018 - 07:57am PT
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Bravo Lewis! The Merc team had it dialed in, which doesn’t bode well for il Scuderia.
“I couldn't have done it without this incredible team, I'm really proud of everyone. I felt this synergy with the car and I hadn't felt that this season.”
Verstappen is one talented idiot.
I would love to see Alonso in a competitive car.
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May 13, 2018 - 08:27am PT
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Race #5, Barcelona
Grid:
Hamilton
Bottas
Vettel
Raikkonen
Verstappen
Ricciardo
Magnussen
Alonso
Initial lap: Magnussen got out of shape. Just behind Mag, Grossjean lost it, big smokescreen from his tires caused a melee: Grossjean, Gasly, Hulkenberg out.
Lap 16/66: Hamilton +6.9 seconds to Vet/Bot/Rai/Ver/Ric
Lap 17/66: Hamilton +7.8 seconds
Lap 17/66 Vettel = first to stop for tires
Lap 20/66 Bottas = tires
Bottas pitstop = 3.5 seconds/loses place to Vettel
Lap 22/66 Ham/Rai/Ver/Ric/Vet/Bot
Lap 24/66 Hamilton has 17 seconds on Raikonnen
Lap 25 Raikonnen out: failure of his second engine of the season
Lap 30/66 Leclerc & Alonso battle for 10/11
Lap ~31/66 Ericsson & Sainz Battle for 8/9
Lap 34/66 Ricciardo = tires 2.3 seconds (About as quick as it gets, have we seen 2.1 or 2.2?)
Lap 35/66 Sirotkin & Ocon battle for last place 15/16
Lap 41/66 Ocon out = virtual safety car
Lap 42/66 Vettel = tires/5.6 second stop/loses place to Bottas & Verstappen
Lap 43/66 Alonso overtakes leclerc
Lap 47/66 Vandoorne out
Lap 56/66 Ricciardo/5th place = 119.093 lap record
Lap 59/66 Perez overtakes Leclerc
Lap 62/66 Ricciardo/5th place = 118:441 lap record
Lap 65/66 Hamilton interval =
Bottas +19.080
Verstappen +6.575
Vettel +2.040
Ricciardo +20.212
From the start, Hamilton pretty much ran away with the race.
Finishing order:
Hamilton
Bottas
Verstappen
Vettel
Ricciardo
Magnussen
Sainz
Alonso
How about the teammate solidarity between Hamilton and Bottas?
At the finish, Hamilton telling Bottas that he might have changed his line at the first turn, thereby pulling Bottas into his slipstream to keep them both together ahead of Vettel. Far different from how he got along with ... golly, I've already forgotten the name of his German teammate from years past! Ha ha! Oh yeah ... Nico Rosberg.
I bet Vettel and Ferrari were pissed off: going for that 5+ second tire change during the virtual safety car on lap 42 and losing the podium as a result!
He'd had the oldest tires in the race, all the way back from lap 17/66.
Also interesting to see Verstappen doing so well, maintaining a 2-3 second gap ahead of Vettel, and this with a damaged front wing end plate, from his contact with the rear end of one of the Williams at the resumption of the race from virtual safety car. When it's time to race, there's no holding that boy back, even if it's to his detriment!
Alonso's 295th GP
Hamilton's 64th GP victory
Hamilton 1st man to go 30 consecutive points finishes (bumping Michael Schumacher)
Verstappen's 1st podium in seven races
The Spanish Grand Prix (Spanish: Gran Premio de España) is a Formula One race currently held at the Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya in Barcelona. The race is one of the oldest in the world still contested, celebrating its centenary in 2013.
It looked like a fun track to drive, though at the finish, Verstappen said it wasn't so easy to pass on this track.
The circuit is not known to produce copious amounts of overtaking, despite the long straights.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_de_Barcelona-Catalunya
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May 27, 2018 - 12:47pm PT
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I could be wrong Cosmic, but I think the primary design is to protect the drivers from loose wheels hitting them, cars getting airborn from hitting the driver and other such incidences. The cars protected the drivers from roll overs already in the body geometry. There might be further design changes, but looks like a good design in the case of safety.
Peace
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G_Gnome
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May 27, 2018 - 08:12pm PT
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Not really a fan of F1 today. That was THE most boring race ever in F1. Leading car is 25% down on power and still no one can pass him. They really need to abandon Monaco and other tracks like it. Congrats to Danny and RB but jesus that was painful to watch!
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Reilly
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The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 27, 2018 - 11:06pm PT
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Monaco is mainly about qualifying. It was a lot more exciting BITD when cars exploded and sh!t.
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tradmanclimbs
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Pomfert VT
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May 28, 2018 - 05:11am PT
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I bet if they ran Moto GP bikes on the monaco circuit it would be exciteing enough for you! Even though once Marco gets out front this year he runs away with it but the fights for 2nd and 3rd have been epic with some monster high sides....
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Winemaker
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Yakima, WA
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May 28, 2018 - 05:01pm PT
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I hope Indy cars adopt it.
IndyCar is working on a clear windshield sort of thing that, in my opinion, is way more friendly to the fans. I used to drive formula cars; the air hitting you in the face and the bug splatter were always interesting. A nice coating or Rainex and you were good to go in the rain, which was the most fun to drive in.
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