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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Nov 27, 2015 - 12:18am PT
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Place visited than abandoned,
yearly on display
and so seen , by all
as a project for the Boy Scouts
To clean up - make nice?
Seemed to bother no one
At All?
In these glades along the river
That was once so polluted
But that was 45 years ago
The woods of my childhood sanitized
Rotting hulks, rusting in defiant beauty?
the likes of Aqua Volvo, RolexGiA & Musta-been-a tang
( & Chevy chased to a stop, here? )
Hauled out after more than 60 years of
Being down stream from the dump
Now the Recycling center
Trails built by dirty peddle power are now
Chipped with pressure treated wood chips
and bordered with 6x6 green hued posts
brass placks Attached to call attention to the troop responsible
Or the type, specimen of tree- Oak, White Pine, maple. . .
the plaques for tree type placed with care in the ground
In a round of stones, fire-ring style.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Nov 27, 2015 - 01:09am PT
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So some weird stuff .
The songs, from Steve Miller Band, Fly like an Eagle, - and now Cat Stevens
Are aging me and playin' nonstop outa the Shablet
disruptive. . .
It is the songs of the kids,
I'll need to make it stop as Ripple is streaming now. . . .
I took this from the
Still searching for Mathew thread, it is of post card worthyness
N'est pa?
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 27, 2015 - 02:13am PT
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Lots and lots of gratefulness going around.
Minnie Thanks will be marrying L.O. Tooyou sometime this spring, she announced.
Goodbye to you, L.O. Tooyou.
Beatles/k37/Hello, Goodbye
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rblYSKz_VnI
"Why, why, why, why, why, why, why?"
Oh, oh, no! Oh no, it's Ono!
Mm-cha!
Mm-cha!
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Nov 27, 2015 - 05:12am PT
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Just tidying up not to be confused with
Tie dying up
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This whole post was from my looking back, 11years or so.
Time flys, some things change but more things stay the same.
Supertopo forum no longer inspirational
1 - 14 of total of only 14 in this topic. . . .( so not long but it looks it )
jclimb
Trad climber
Durango, Co
Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 3, 2004 - 07:23pm PT
okay, crappy topic name, i know, let the flaming begin, but i just wanted to put in writing some things i've been thinking lately.
basically, my enthusiasm for checking out the forum lately has severely waned.
. mostly because i can't stand the bickering, immaturity, and name calling.
most of this stuff seems to be politically based.
. i know i don't have to read the posts, as no one is forcing me to,
but i usually enjoy reading all of them - they are humorous if not informative.
i often appreciate the reasoning voices of many forum posters as counters
to those who are sometimes way out of line, imo.
the past few days, though, and especially topics posted today, have been super lame,
and severely detract from all the reasons i have previously enjoyed this forum,
and especially detract from any connections to the wonders and inspirations
of the beauty of climbing.
I know i could of chimed in and let my opinion be known
in chris' post about whether or not political threads should be accepted.
I don't think that policing or moderating the forum is the answer,
, though.
i just think it is a shame that the forum has gone the direction it has.
I'm not the most articulate person,
and i'm not sure how this is coming across to you readers,
, but basically, i'm done with the supertopo forum for awhile
(not that it matters or that anyone cares about wtf i think)
it is no longer a source of inspiration, rather a source of frustration.
maybe i'm a wuss and take things too seriously, whatever. so be it.
'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
Nov 3, 2004 - 07:46pm PT
I've pretty much retired from flaming. It grows tiresome,
though I'll admit I am tempted from time to time.
I like answering technical big wall climbing questions.
If you would like a technical wall climbing question answered,
I'd be happy to do so.
There is precious little climbing information here of late,
and I can share some useful stuff for the wall and aid climber.
If you like, address the post to me, and I'll get to it.
I think that Supertopo needs some sub-forums.
At the very least, there should be a Climbing Forum
but also a forum for Not Climbing Stuff.
Rockclimbing.com has a Community Forum that they use to discuss non-climbing stuff
 why not here?
That way, people who want to bitch about politics and stuff can go to one place,
and people who want to learn about climbing can go someplace else.
If you want to learn stuff about big wall climbing, just ask.
I'm your man. Especially stuff about soloing.
Many MANY people have written to me and told me in person that they have found my information inspirational.
Just last month a little hottie came up to me in Yosemite,
She told me she had read all my stuff, and felt inspired enough to go solo a big wall.
She gave me this really cool rivet hanger she had made to say thanks.
I always feel gratified when I meet people like her -
I feel as though all the [mostly] unpaid hours I've spent writing stuff has been worthwhile.
I have pisspots full of El Cap beta I'd be happy to share, too -
maybe that can help get you psyched.
Just don't ask me anything about free climbing -
I'm retired from that, too.
Jody
Mountain climber
Templeton, CA
Nov 3, 2004 - 08:21pm PT
Just tell the liberals to quit starting political threads.
They are definitely in the majority in that department.
It is a nice day today, isn't it?
Fattrad's twin.
Donny Quijote
Boulder climber
Boulder F'n CO
Nov 3, 2004 - 08:21pm PT
clink.....clink
Mountain Man
Trad climber
Outer Space
Nov 3, 2004 - 08:25pm PT
Woke up this morning
Sing a little song
Don't worry, be happy
Donny Quijote
Boulder climber
Boulder F'n CO
Nov 3, 2004 - 08:25pm PT
BONK!
The Mad Irishman
Trad climber
VA alpine capital of the world
Nov 4, 2004 - 10:51am PT
I've been lurking here for a short time and have found the Forum to have some good info. There are alway going to be flamers.
I find that the weboards I frequent that have older (and usually more mature)
members have fewer crybaby's & flamers.
RockClimbing.com is a great example of too many of the posters being immature,
young, flammers that make the website no fun to visit, let alone post on at times.
CascadeClimbers.com is more on the other side of the spectrum
(still has a few flamers but MUCH fewer) as with NEIce.com.
People who flame or hecklers must have some pent up anger.
They hide behind their keyboard and attack as a way to vent.
They are quick to react and often their arguments are flawed, aggressive and ill thoughtout.
How many people are going to continue to respond to the best of flamers when they post?
Not many as it usually doesn't get anywhere
because their subspecies like to get in the last word.
It also keeps others from posting.
Others who might have something good or great to add to the subject.
Something even the hecklers could use.
The result is a less informative and more hostile webboard.
Surely, if they were passionate about climbing,
they would want to enjoy sharing & obtaining helpful info with fellow climbers.
Thanks Pete! I have enjoyed your posts and found them very helpful.
And of course without our host,
Big Mac, who you don't see flaming by the way, we would not have this great site.
Thanks Chris!
Politics is a great way to get people aggrevated about something that affects them
the hecklers "feed" off of that. .
. The best response is no response.
Good idea Pete, a separate pen for the animals to play in.
Irish
!who is TMI? The Mad Irishman from wheret ? Are still a lurker here?
Dingus Milktoast
climber
NorCal
Nov 4, 2004 - 11:28am PT
Post up! Don't complain, contribute.
Write something interesting.
Don't lecture about maturity from obscurity.
Post something INTERESTING! Check it out...
DMT
then this
Irisharehere
Trad climber
Gunks
Nov 4, 2004 - 01:15pm PT
holy shite, there's another mad Irish climber around?
I thought I was the only one!!!!!!!
Irish
!who is I A H? Irisharehere,
from where?
The Gunks!? Are still a lurker here?
Southern Man
climber
Nov 4, 2004 - 02:00pm PT
Hey PTPP:
I need info. on aid soloing walls. Do you have a web site?
I've seen you beta on rc.com
but you have to go all over creation to piece it all together.
~!~
poop*ghost
Trad climber
Berkeley
Nov 4, 2004 - 02:14pm PT
I'm going with Dingus on this.
If you want to change something -
don't demand it from others.
In the same vein as Dingus's work,
I just posted some stuff I'd been sitting on for a while.
I feel a little bummed when there's not another badass trip report for me to peruse....
. yet, I haven't written a TR in a LONG time.
Certainly gives me no room for complaint.
j.
'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
Nov 4, 2004 - 10:31pm PT
Hey Southern Man,
You can find pretty much everything you're looking for in my
[url="http://www.rockclimbing.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=22175&forum=19&10"]
Index to Dr. Piton Stuff.[/url] It has probably fallen a few pages back
in the Aid Climbing Forum of rockclimbing.com,
so if you find it of benefit, perhaps you could reply to the index and bump it to the front of the Aid Forum?
When you work through my posts, be sure to click the links!
I really put a lot of work into those, so have a look.
I had originally asked that nobody reply to my index,
in order to have at least one flame-free repository of information,
and because I would keep it up to date.
When I left RC.com, I agreed with Trevor the owner that
I would no longer post there,
so I'm afraid the post has fallen into disarray.
What happened is that since I left, there have been some changes
to the coding in the forums,
and some of my carefully-scripted fonts and colours have gone haywire
because the original coding no longer works!
Coylec has volunteered to fix the fonts, and honestly,
it's going to be the same systemic error repeating itself,
so it shouldn't be too hard a job.
So perhaps a gentle nudge his way would help?
He's in lie school studying to be a lieyer,
so one imagines him being busy.
If you can't stand the fonts in some of the buggered posts,
the best thing to do is copy and paste the stuff into a Word Document,
and fix it that way.
I've met several people in Yosemite
who've shown me their three-ring binders of Dr. Piton Stuff,
that is always great motivation to keep writing -
when I know people actually benefit from my stuff.
If there's something you don't get,
or something else you need to know,
send me an email to my regular address:
peterzabrok@cogeco.ca
If I can't answer your question quickly, or point you to a link,
then maybe you could just ask me the question here in Supertopo.
And if you want to get free gear, come up with a clever question,
and email it to me at Rock & Ice Magazine:
drpiton@bigstonepub.com
If we choose your question, you get some free climbing gear.
Not bad, eh? I think it's a pair of climbing shoes or something good like that.
Cheers,
Pete aka Dr. Piton
Flash
Ice climber
Nov 4, 2004 - 11:02pm PT
Hey Pete,
I want some free gear so here's my question:
How do you aid solo climb?
dougs510
Trad climber
Nashville, TN.
Nov 5, 2004 - 12:08am PT
I love this place, don't change a thing!!!
Dude,
if you don't like it, don't participate....
or just lurk around like alot em' do....
Yeah, that's right, I know who you are :) $teFca-x-3
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Nov 27, 2015 - 06:28am PT
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Thanks for Dinner Buddy. Good catching up.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Nov 27, 2015 - 04:39pm PT
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There are quite a few Postcard Collector's sites. You can get 'em with the original messages written which are sometimes quite revealing.
Here's one from Pine Valley, where we used to rent little cabins for a family week away from the small city.
The cabns looked like this.
And I learned how to swim in Pine Valley, though it wasn't this pool.
Fastforwarding a bit, I have a postcard from Nepal that my friend Robbie sent me when he was roaming around in 1967-68. I thought I scanned it, but it's not popping up right now.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Nov 27, 2015 - 04:53pm PT
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Glacier Point, but it doesn't "Seem Like a Freeze Out".
It depends how much time and money you want to put into postcards.
The one above is available for $3.00.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Nov 27, 2015 - 05:35pm PT
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Meantime life outside goes on
All around you
1981
DETROIT, Jan. 15— Leon Spinks, the former heavyweight boxing champion, told police today he was attacked on a city street and awakened hours later in a motel to find he had been robbed of $45,000 worth of clothes, jewelry and other items.
Spinks told authorities he had been stripped of his clothes and left on a bed and that his gold dental plate was among the items taken.
Spinks, who bought a house in Detroit a few years ago, told police he was leaving a west side bar last night when he was struck on the head. He told the police he did not see who attacked him.
The next thing he remembers, Spinks said in a police report, was waking up at about 1 P.M. today in a motel about five miles away. Missing, Spinks said, were his jewelry, his removable front teeth, and his clothes, including an expensive blue fox coat. He apparently was uninjured and requested no medical treatment.
You feel to moan but unlike before
You discover that you’d just be one more
Person crying
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Nov 27, 2015 - 05:44pm PT
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POSTCARDS OF THE HANGING - FOR SALE
WARNING - GRAPHIC IMAGEs.
-The Princess of Darkness (don't smile, she ain't on Candid Camera, eh?)
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Nov 27, 2015 - 05:59pm PT
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Silhouetted corpse of African American Allen Brooks hanging from Elk's Arch, surrounded by spectators. March 3, 1910. Dallas, Texas.
Tinted lithographed postcard. 3 1/2 x 5 1/2 in.
Printed inscription on border, "LYNCHING SCENE, DALLAS, MARCH 3, 1910". Penciled inscription on border, "All OK and would like to get a post from you. Bill, This was some Raw Bunch."
http://withoutsanctuary.org/main.html
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 27, 2015 - 08:05pm PT
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Hey, nicely balanced presentation, BeachMasterZ!
Soften 'em up with the precious puppies & then spring the trap!
Well, I'm afraid I've been shocked by these graphic but non-bloody images.
Shocked, I tell you!
Is this your idea of a kinky, camp joke?
I'm not talking about Bob Kamps, but camp, a once-popular kind of way of expressing something or other. I joined in, as I was a fan of Batman, the TV series, which took Camp out of the closet, if that's where it was, and presented it to stoopid American kids whose heroes lived in the comic books which they devoured and then stacked neatly in their collection, waiting for the future, when they might do some real good.
Not camp-style humor, such as horseplay or grab-ass, but what was once modern, cool, and hip, a mild mockery of the subject, like a photo of the Pope wearing a miter with a baseball cap brim.
I mean camp as in, "The Batman TV series tried awfully hard to be camp by using blocky printed words overlaying action scenes, just like on the pages of AC Comics (or is it DC?),
action words such as ZAP! POW! BOOM!"
And the frames would sometmes be frozen and corny puns traded.
Camp humor seems to be understated mockery, I feel.
Its nature reveals some of the silliness of climbing up a building's side using a rope instead of just the hands and feet, as it's properly done.
Anyway, I was shocked, I tell you, shocked! My umbrage is under control, however. I am only shocked, not appalled in the slightest, and have absolutely no dismay over what's gone down
It's sort of funny, all in all.
And I can't really apollojive to our readers because zBrown's taste is excellent, even in extreme situations such as this one,
one which possibly might cause waves to slosh over here from "over there" on the thread that deals with graphic bloody images. Or vice-versa.
And if there are any other complaints, see The Man, though it's really hard to connect with him because he's on such a tight schedule all the time. Not even Robin can get in to see him easily. He's had to resort to all kinds of tricks to get his attention.If you can't lick them stamps, you won't send very many postcards.
Sometimes one can fight fire with fire, so to speak. We Flames know that. This seems like a good time for that strategy.Shocking, but not vugular.
It's all just a Commie plot, I'm thinkin', to get the masses to raise some ire among the establishment.
David Blaine's not worried about it. In fact, he's tryin' to make some bucks off of the stoopid American masses.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/642947/Upside-down-Batman-doing-fine-doctor
Best studios designed this and Virginia and Ansel presented a large print of it to Nikita Kruschev on his secret trip to Yosemite. Better than a postcard, any day!
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LilaBiene
Trad climber
Technically...the spawning grounds of Yosemite
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Nov 28, 2015 - 05:45am PT
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Hi Mouse!!!
Very glad to hear that you are on the mend!
Managed to get to the post office with the muppet in tow yesterday, so part of your Christmas present is on the way to you for a little early holiday cheer. ")
Hoping it will provide some good reading to distract you from the present, if only for a little while.
Love & hugs from ODD & the muppet!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 28, 2015 - 06:31am PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video]I HATE PURPLE!
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2715674&msg=2715674#msg2715674
I LOVE DEEP PURPLE! But I keep it to myself; and in truth I only like a few of their older songs, too.
They were pimped as "the English Vanilla Fudge."
I've heard of French Vanilla, but never English Vanilla.
Of one of the band's big hits, Smoke On the Water, it's been noted that it "is a song by default played by beginner bands."
There is a story behind this "massive hit." (Sorry, but that's a very tired old pun on the success of this POS song.) There are two versions of the tale, as it turns out.
Erica Chandler sez:
Love this song but does anyone know the story behind it? If not here it is: the band was staying in a hotel recording an album. Across from the hotel was a lake with a little island in the middle. There was a club on the island. Someone shot a flare at the ceiling and burned down the building. And they saw smoke...On the water.
Carl Fleming adds:
Erica Chandler Well you got some of it right.
Frank Zappa's band was playing at the theater. This is where they were setup to record Machine Head. Some fool set of a flare gun and it burned down.
They got hold of the Rolling Stones and they brought up their mobile recording truck. For a fee of course.
They recorded in the hotel and use mattress as sound barriers to help with the echo in the rooms.
I'm not posting Smoke On the Water here because I was burned out on listening to it so much earlier in my life. Deep Purple's music has been said to be "a slow and pompous din, somewhere between bad Tchaikovsky and a B-52 taking off on a bombing run."
It's like the Climbing Forum, as I see it. You like SOME of the songs on an LP, but not all. It used to be that to listen to the good songs you put on the LP and listened to the whole side (unless you had a DJ) because it was such a hassle to try to re-groove the needle in the right place at the start of a song. And with cassettes, there was the same basic problem in that it was a hassle to FFW the tape to the right spot.
Then came the CD, and things got decidedly easier, and then we had playlists on our computers and listening devices, which solved the problem entirely...except there's always some derp who wants to listen to some of the tunes you left off the list!
Now he's the type who will initiate an OT thread to bitch about the lack of attention paid to over-hyped bands of dubious overall talent as musicians and songwriters. It's no wonder people tire of the Taco in this case.
Well, to them I say, "How do you know what I'm listening to on my device? I have ear-buds in."
Just this last week, I saw two different folks on two different occasions walking down the street coming in my direction (on the opposite side, thanks) and wearing ear buds, listening to "their music." The first person, an older woman, dumpily dressed in baggy sweats and with her hair tucked into a Giants' cap, would walk a bit and then, full volume, blast out loud lyrics that I couldn't understand. She'd go a bit further and out came another string of garbled lyrics.
The next person was a young man "wearing" pants and boxer shorts, too, for the pants were threatening to trip him they were worn so low. He wore ear buds and was walking in an exaggerated rhythm and swinging his arms up to shoulder height with each step, sort of a sloppy march. He sang nothing, but just kept talking to himself instead. He sounded like he was pissed at whoever he was conversing with.
I think that one of the main objections that I have to a lot of the rock songs from the seventies and eighties is that much of it seems to be about life on the road, troubles faced by the bands, and so on. My heart bleeds for you, mates. You should go to bed when you're done, like Jagger's GF suggested on Spider and the Fly. I'm not gonna list any of these songs, because just thinkin' of this kind of weightless space-filler music written and played by heavy metal bands makes my head smaller.
[Click to View YouTube Video]Originally, a #1 Cashbox hit for the Zombies, written by R. Argent.
Vanilla Fudge, especially early on, did mostly covers of other songs.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
"Sorry, but it's too late to say you're sorry."
"But you keep me hangin' on. What's the story?"
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 28, 2015 - 07:00am PT
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Panorama from my window starting with the view up the alley to the NW, swinging around through the north and then around to the NE.
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