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Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2014 - 06:19am PT
Need I say it? Nope, but I will, it's pissing down here in Ireland.

I just hope that my former neighbor, brother Mac's best man, and a very good friend, Jay, is watering the last remaining redwood I planted on my late mother's land in Saranap (unincorporated between Lafayette and Walnut Creek).

I planted 27 redwood saplings (that was a task, going four feet down for each tree, redwoods have shallow roots, so I wanted to make sure they had a good start) in 1994, only the one remains on the border with Jay's land. He has been keeping it alive. It's about 30+ feet tall now, coolaboola.

Just as a personal note, Saranap was a great place to grow up. From a platform/hay loft we built on top of our largest chicken coop (about 14'x14') at the top of our hill, we'd sit there looking across the whole Diablo Valley, getting high and looking at Mt Diablo. I built a sort of climbing 'wall' on that coop/platform, with a four-foot overhang, holds and all. It kept me in good shape, shame I can't say the same now.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 27, 2014 - 12:06pm PT
Chuff is right... we got 1/4" of precip over the last two days... this drought thing was all just a big hoax... nothing to worry about any more. Also, keep in mind that 1982-83 was a wet year.

Over half of CA voters now support the $11 billion water bond measures. Looks like Chuff's team loses to data and reason AGAIN.

Khanom, is it true saturation overland flow (i.e. the water table is at the surface) or is infiltration excess? Not a whole lot you can do about SOF, but you can engineer some infiltration structures to get that water underground if it is infiltration excess.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
Mar 27, 2014 - 05:45pm PT
This is how all San Diego water basins are all getting inter-connected. Not shown is the huge desalinazation plant being built in Carlsbad.




March 24, 2014
Barrett 160.90 ft 116.92 ft 34,805.5 10,570.9 30.4 0
El Capitan 197.00 ft 135.60 ft 112,806.9 40,632.8 36.0 0
Hodges 115.00 ft 92.74 ft 30,251.0 11,866.7 39.2 0
Miramar 114.00 ft 106.80 ft 6,682.4 5,577.3 83.5 0
Morena 157.00 ft 85.20 ft 50,694.0 1,991.0 3.9 0
Murray 95.00 ft 91.30 ft 4,684.20 4,090.5 87.3 0
Lower Otay 137.42 ft 123.94 ft 49,848.9 34,308.6 68.8 0
San Vicente 190.00 ft 150.15 ft 89,312.2 51,129.6 57.2 0
Sutherland 145.00 ft 67.39 ft 29,508.1 3,026.6 10.3 0
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Mar 27, 2014 - 06:51pm PT
hey there say, the chief... thanks for the map...

and zbrown... thanks for sharing your map...
had never seen this type before on water...

also, patrick, thanks for sharing about your redwood trees, etc and the area... was very interesting...

mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 29, 2014 - 09:12pm PT
Pississippi up in heya!
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2014 - 09:23am PT
I love you people. Irreverence, joking, day to day living.

Fremont? Andrzej, I thought you were in Poland. Fremont, I know it.

I had some neighbors in Darty, Dublin 6, when I lived there. Now I am in the Sunny Southeast of Wexford, yeah, except where is the sun?

Wochijreh and Agatha (I can't remember their young daughter's name). From near Gdansk (there are a lot of Poles in Ireland. Most of the supermarkets have a Polish food section). (I went out a couple of times with Magda, a very cute young blonde from Krakow. But she was 23 and I was, too old, 49).

Agatha: "Patrick it is cold."

"Agatha, you come from Poland, where there are sub-zero temperatures."

"Yes, but the Irish weather is a cold weather."

True. Cold weather like in Poland is a dry cold. Irish cold is wet, and goes straight to the bones.


EDIT

I would love to climb in the High Tatras.
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Apr 1, 2014 - 11:00am PT

Winter has finally arrived on..April 1st...beautiful..
post 400.....(-;
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 2, 2014 - 12:14am PT
Doesn't matter. 1982-83 was a wet year.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Apr 2, 2014 - 01:28am PT
LOL, The Chief is still making predictions.

Here's his prediction for this snow season made on Oct 5 last year.

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=970221&msg=2241078#msg2241078

Mark my words... the SIERRA will have 20-40% above avg AVG snowfall this season.

April 1 tally: only 32% of average snow water content.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Apr 2, 2014 - 01:31am PT
yep, Chief....your words were marked, as you requested.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Apr 2, 2014 - 01:50am PT
Here in LA, our reservoirs are nearly 100% full, thank you.
fairweather

Mountain climber
Roseville, CA
Apr 2, 2014 - 01:55am PT
How about scrapping high speed rail and building a few more reservoirs, like the Auburn Dam or raising Shasta's Dam? Isn't having enough water a little bit more important than some pork belly railroad project that's going to be too expensive for people to ride without government subsidies,and take too long even if it was cheap enough?
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 2, 2014 - 12:10pm PT
That chuff fella sure is impervious.

Ten bucks says next Winter when we are 200% or better

I'll bet $10 the northern Sierra will NOT be at 200% or better of average based on data from: http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/precip1/8STATIONHIST

Come on chuff, it is only $10... and your stellar record of climate predictions.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Apr 2, 2014 - 12:18pm PT
Then there is NO drought in LA.


Perfect.



Pretty amazing how the LA Aqueduct is full to the brim and flowing just fine all the way down to .. LA!

That is correct. but your understanding of the situation is that of a flea considering the actions of the dog it lives upon.

But as you've stated, there is no drought in the Owens Valley, either.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 2, 2014 - 01:17pm PT
There is no drought anywhere because chuff has extraordinary long term vision and understanding of Earth's climate. He is an authority on the subject because he says he is. If climate was wildly different during various periods over the last 5 billion years and modern humans have only been around for ~200,000 years, it is only logical that ANY climatic changes within the previous range of variability are due to something other than humans.

Also, there is no ozone depletion due to human actions because for most of the Earth's history the NORM was little or no ozone in the atmosphere. So logically, if there was no ozone for most of the Earth's history, there is no way humans could adversely affect ozone levels.

derp
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
Apr 2, 2014 - 01:20pm PT
Here in LA, our reservoirs are nearly 100% full, thank you.




LACWD purchases imported water from local SWP contractors including Antelope Valley-East Kern Water Agency, Castaic Lake Water Agency and Metropolitan Water District of Southern California, or regional wholesale water agencies such as Los Angeles Department of Water and Power and West Basin Municipal Water District.

...

The Colorado River Aqueduct stretches 240 miles from Lake Havasu on the California-Arizona border to Lake Mathews in Riverside County. California has been taking over 5 million acre feet of water from the Colorado River a year even though they are only entitled to 4.4 million acre feet. The Metropolitan Water District is a consortium of 26 cities and water districts that imports water from the SWP and CRA to supply drinking water to much of Southern California. In areas where local groundwater is available, LACWD owns and operates groundwater production wells which are used to pump the water from the groundwater basin to the surface. The groundwater is then disinfected and pumped into the distribution system.
John M

climber
Apr 2, 2014 - 01:38pm PT
4 inches of snow here in Wawona.

Badger pass probably has its best snow of the winter and they are closed.

the park service was supposed to start plowing glacier point road on monday. too funny..

Los Angeles imports most of its water. They will be okay. Where they could hurt is if this dry period persists. who is going to hurt this summer are San Joaquin valley farmers. And our aquifers as the farmers will pump a lot of water.
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Apr 2, 2014 - 06:18pm PT
4" of snow in Wawona ya say Moose? Nice. We can now official call an end to both the drought and to global warming. I'll tell the scientists. Not the antichrist guy who posts on ST all day long, the smart ones I mean.

Next topic.
John M

climber
Apr 2, 2014 - 06:19pm PT
no watering required in the winter time in the valley. Lawns mostly go dormant.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
Apr 2, 2014 - 07:41pm PT
I was wondering why, if there is no drought (is this different from a draught?), all the reservoirs in San Diego county, are at such a low level.

Is someone upstream or upstairs diverting all the moisture to make it appear that there is no drought in areas where people are easily fooled?
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