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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Jun 22, 2018 - 12:37pm PT
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Outstanding Gene!
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Jun 22, 2018 - 01:22pm PT
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The white people are paranoid because they fear losing their status as the majority ethnic group in America.
Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean you aren't correct.
White males have lost a substantial amount of white, male privilege in the last 10 or 20 years and they are right in thinking that it isn't finished.
And the biggest driver of populist angst is economic insecurity. Anti-immigration sentiment is, in general, tied more to economic conditions than it is to the actual number of immigrants.
I don't see anything on the horizon that is going to make things better. It appears that an ever greater population, across all income levels, are going to, correctly, fear economic insecurity.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Jun 22, 2018 - 02:33pm PT
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White dudes are not paranoid...Their andrenal glands are drained from all that winning...
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jun 22, 2018 - 03:32pm PT
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The reason for the president’s reversal was those elections. Polls show the GOP electorate is split on immigration. Even among Republicans over the age of 50, over 40 percent oppose President Trump’s actions on family separation.
Control of the House of Representatives will be determined by election results in suburban congressional districts with large numbers of highly educated voters that are now represented by Republicans. With some exceptions, such as in Minnesota, the key races that will determine which party wins a House majority will not be fought in the blue-collar, populist districts that swung from Barack Obama to Donald Trump in 2016.
The generic vote for Congress is close. A tough policy on immigration may bring out President Trump’s base to vote, but the public relations disaster of family separations threatened to drive suburban voters – especially women – to the Democrats.
“Somehow I don’t think that putting kids in cages is likely to go over very well with suburban moms,” Whit Ayres, a Republican pollster, told The Atlantic magazine.
Trump aides hope that by now combining tough rhetoric on issues such as sanctuary cities with ducking a bruising political battle in Congress, they will thread the needle and allow Republicans to keep the House.
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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Jun 22, 2018 - 04:57pm PT
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Does a bear sh#t in the woods?
Is the Pope Catholic?
Is trump a liar?
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Jun 22, 2018 - 05:03pm PT
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Are the Kennedy’s gun shy.
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nah000
climber
now/here
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Jun 22, 2018 - 05:57pm PT
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+1 DMT
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jun 22, 2018 - 06:04pm PT
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The really sad thing is the tRump supporters lack of understanding, or disregard, for the Constitution. They are SO patriotic until the Constitution becomes inconvenient.
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10b4me
Social climber
Lida Junction
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Jun 22, 2018 - 06:54pm PT
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So conservatives say we should help the people in this country first. I am fine with that, but the all lives matter crowd says everyone's life matters.
In regards to helping people in this country, I haven't heard a peep from the trump administration about helping the homeless. I haven't heard the administration say anything about helping Native Americans. Oh,and what about the people in Flint?
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jun 22, 2018 - 07:01pm PT
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In regards to helping people in this country, I haven't heard a peep from the trump administration about helping the homeless. I haven't heard the administration say anything about helping Native Americans. Oh,and what about the people in Flint?
All true. But how many peeps did you hear from the Obama administration about helping the homeless, the native Americans, or the people in whatever that era's version of Flint?
Or the Cheney Administration? Or the Clinton Administration? Or the Bush Administration?
Read Dingus' post above, and wake up.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Jun 22, 2018 - 07:17pm PT
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Isn’t it really nice to have the authority to create a situation that can only distract said scared people.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jun 22, 2018 - 07:33pm PT
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A significant number of those homeless are VETS!
Did trump serve?
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10b4me
Social climber
Lida Junction
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Jun 22, 2018 - 09:46pm PT
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All true. But how many peeps did you hear from the Obama administration about helping the homeless, the native Americans, or the people in whatever that era's version of Flint?
Or the Cheney Administration? Or the Clinton Administration? Or the Bush Administration?
Read Dingus' post above, and wake up.
my comment is about the trump administration. btw, I am wide awake.
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Jun 22, 2018 - 10:14pm PT
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I'd much prefer visions of the future to fears of the past, from the folks for whom I would like to vote. Sell the vision and to hell with the fear mongering.
Corrupt politicians, major wars, billions of dollars in damages from floods, earthquakes, air and water pollution, economic insecurity, partisan politics, financial crisis that cause millions to lose their jobs, and so. ..
I've got incredibly great news. That is all in the past. Don't worry, be happy. Everything is going to be roses and you even get to set a new speed record on ElCap.
Can I have your vote now?
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Jun 22, 2018 - 10:23pm PT
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Fear and insecurity is hardly limited to one socio-economic group or demographic. And fear mongering is hardly limited to one political party All fear is not created equal. This is most evident in the reaction to fear- in the reaction lies the danger.
The coping mechanisms for targeted and manufactured fear intensified by a certain brain chemistry or lack of understanding and context is not equal to or yawn worthy in comparison to how a person that uses deductive reasoning and information gathering to recognize legitimate fears such as locking up children or global warming or trade wars or colluding with hostile governments or supporting crazy fuking presidents.
Global warming is not a punch line and there is no equivalency here.
Or what August said, more or less.
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