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WBraun
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Why am I supposed to kill this man?
I have no quarrel with this man.
I don't know him at all.
He's BLM and the courts problem ......
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WBraun
climber
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Keep running your stupid mouth coward.
You deserve everything coming your way for all your dumbsh!t mouth you've run.
Karma is your bitch aszhole!
When you are right I have zero respect for you.
When you are wrong I have zero respect for you.
You are the coward .....
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WBraun
climber
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You still keep proving you are the coward.
Keep it up coward.
Nothing works for a stupid coward like you ......
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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I sure want to thank all you "shet Fecking" firearm fetishist and munition masturbators for your efforts to turn America into a back water 3rd rate 3rd world hell hole like Somalia. I can only guess that the burden of "American Exceptionalism" was just to much for you all.
So now we can ditch the hackneyed image of Uncle Sam for the more appropriate poster child of Ted Nuggent. Way to go AmeriKKKlan.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mVuspKSjfgA
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Ron..you calling me a girl..?
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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He has rights Werner, due to water improvements he made on the land
While it's possible he has some water rights, it would not be because he made improvements. He can legally steal land and interest in land from you, Ron, but not from the government.
Curtis Brown in Evidence and Procedures for Boundary Location, 2nd edition pg. 82, writes: "In general, although there are exceptions, unwritten conveyances (the gaining of rights in land without writings) cannot operate against the federal, state, or local governments. In most states, irrespective of how long a person occupies a road, occupancy gives no rights against the public."
IIRC, the Hage case reiterates this.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Does it come in pink?
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Well I recognized the thread drift you prompted Locker and thought Ron should thank you for the chubby you gave him.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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"Happiness is a warm gun"
"Bang bang shoot shoot"
"Pink Camo"
MOOOOOOOOOOOO.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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http://www.8newsnow.com/story/25301551/bundys-ancestral-rights-come-under-scrutiny
LAS VEGAS -- Federal authorities remain silent about their next plans to confront Cliven Bundy at his Bunkerville ranch.
Both sides are fighting over history, with federal courts denying Bundy's claims of "ancestral rights" on the Virgin River valley. The I-Team dug into century-old records to examine Bundy's claims.
At the Bunkerville camp next to Cliven Bundy's ranch, there are constant reminders of history.
Revolutionary War flags, ancient Greek mottos and native American symbols, all mixing together to create a growing identity and narrative for protestors.
This land is unusually fertile and green for southern Nevada. Cliven Bundy grows melons there. They are said to be the best in the state.
His cattle, until recently, roamed freely on land managed by the federal Bureau of Land Management. Before the roundup that sparked protests, confrontations and gunmen taking a bridge, Bundy explained his "ancestral rights" to the I-Team.
"I've lived my lifetime here. My forefathers have been up and down the Virgin Valley here ever since 1877. All these rights that I claim, have been created through pre-emptive rights and beneficial use of the forage and the water and the access and range improvements," Bundy said.
Clark County property records show Cliven Bundy's parents bought the 160 acre ranch in 1948 from Raoul and Ruth Leavitt.
Water rights were transferred too, but only to the ranch, not the federally managed land surrounding it. Court records show Bundy family cattle didn't start grazing on that land until 1954.
The Bureau of Land Management was created 1946, the same year Cliven was born.
"My rights are before the BLM even existed, but my rights are created by beneficial use. Beneficial use means we created the forage and the water from the time the very first pioneers come here," Bundy said.
Early census records show Cliven's maternal grandmother, Christena Jensen, was born in Nevada in 1901 (other records show she was born in 1891 as Abigail Christina Abbott).
One word spreading through Bundy supporters and his armed guards is that what the federal government is doing to Bundy is exactly what they did to native Americans.
"They are literally treating western United States citizens, ranchers, rural folks like this- are the modern day Indians. We're being driven off of our lands. We're being forced into reservations known as cities," Justin Giles, an Oathkeeper from Alaska, said.
The local Paiute Indians were forced into reservations by federal troops in 1875. Two years prior, the tribe was promised the same land Cliven Bundy now grows his melons ,and until recently, grazed his cattle.
The I-Team's research team has come up with an in-depth look at the genealogy and property records that form the basis of Cliven Bundy's claim of ancestral rights on the ranch land.
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crankster
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Ron's back. We are doomed.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Hey Let's all go to the NRA website and discuss Wings of Steel.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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jonnyrig, someone needs to fight those closures. When you buy a parcel of land, you buy the easements that go with it.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Water improvements on BLM land overlooking Bundy ranch. Bunkerville or Mesquite in distance.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
SLO, Ca
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There are no ancestor rights to federal land, there is no title through adverse possession, no implied easements, and no right to anything based on "improvements."
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Fact check Ron....Fogarty did not write that song. Why are you lying to us?
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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That's not an "Improvement" that's a rusting canker sore and a blight.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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The dude was born in 46.....looks much older. Evidently diminished brain activity causes other body parts to deteriorate.
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