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Douglas Rhiner

Mountain climber
Good question?!?!?!?!?
Apr 9, 2010 - 12:01pm PT
Jeff,

Having ALL nations play by a set of rules is ultimately in the US's best interest.
And having the US uphold "the rules" that it can across the board, of friend and foe alike will make "us", the US, stronger and keep us #1.
Otherwise you have constantly varying levels of anarchy, worse than we have right now, all over the world. Nations picking and choosing which rules they want to play by at a given point in time to "help" their short term situation ( Israel is a contemporary example of this ). Which may help your stock portfolio of military stocks, but it does not make US or anyone else safer.
Douglas Rhiner

Mountain climber
Good question?!?!?!?!?
Apr 9, 2010 - 12:23pm PT
Jeff,

Glad I could be of service.
lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
Apr 9, 2010 - 02:08pm PT
Peddler of Deception [Fattrad]

Just had a thought that you had Halliburton’s but Conoco Phillips as well? Egypt oil too.

You are a “peddler” of war but not a “whore” [Their different], one hides by using deception and the other doesn’t. I know you well.

Guess you make a penny here and maybe loose a penny there. In the long or short run you will see and get your profits.

US Forces serving in the Middle East over US interests and your interests [investments]: Anyone that comes in that category: Men/women of Special Forces, Army, Marines, National Guard………………….

A leg here and a leg blown over there, a head there and a head blown off here, half of a face here and half of no face there. Somebody here and nobody now, well there was hard to just find the pieces of him/her. Someone burned a little here, someone burned a lot there.

I buy gasoline, look in the mirror as I drive off, feel guilty but it goes away and I realize that I have contributed in someone making an IED [improvised explosive device] from the gas that I just bought and does the above to our fellow friends. Many come back in body bags while others with their legs, arms missing, Faces and bodies burnt.

Taking a guess you don’t give a sh#t. Assassinations, torture, corruption, rape. Penny here and a penny there.

Word of advice when the next time you say “Just made a killing in the stock market today” keep it to yourself.
Douglas Rhiner

Mountain climber
Good question?!?!?!?!?
Apr 13, 2010 - 02:18pm PT
Sucks to be Israeli.
Douglas Rhiner

Mountain climber
Good question?!?!?!?!?
Apr 13, 2010 - 02:28pm PT
Jeff,

This is getting cross-posted from the "God is a Fag and he hates Westburo Babtist Church." thread, because it goes right to the heart of your "Clash" theory........

"This pastor/congregation is spewing hate, not love, under the guise of Christianity/scripture."

This got me thinking ( ouch ).

What I'm finding interesting is that the group being spoken of here is being "separated" from the rest of christianity by the participants of this discussion.
What is also interesting is that this same scenario is playing out within the Islamic faith, radical right wing factions preaching and carrying out hate under the guise of Islam/scripture, but when discussion ensues more often than not the "separation" from the rest of Islam does not occur.
I can understand this, fearing what is not commonplace or "known", but it just seems a little intellectually disingenuous.

......intellectually disingenuous, Jeff.
Douglas Rhiner

Mountain climber
Good question?!?!?!?!?
Apr 14, 2010 - 06:00pm PT
jeff,

You just proved my point, and made a bit of a leap forward by stating that "There are millions of wonderful Muslims around the world" which means not all followers of Islam are "evil".
And you are beginning to come around and TRULY realize that not all followers of Islam are evil.
Separating the evil from the good in your mind may be hard but you can do it.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Apr 14, 2010 - 11:24pm PT
Fatty

Use www.tinyurl.com

Peace

Karl
lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
Apr 16, 2010 - 08:37pm PT
Fattrad

Ehud Yaari

Google and read his perspective on FA [Foreign Affairs] You can download audio as well.

http://www.foreignaffairs.com
if you get to main page hit "discussions" should come up. if not google will work
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Apr 16, 2010 - 11:14pm PT
Yah Fat Bro

You go to www.tinyurl.com and plug in

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100414/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_us_iran;_ylt=AvhufhKLe7A2hwsfkneoM8m9IxIF;_ylu=X3oDMTJ2NmQyYjVoBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwNDE0L3VzX3VzX2lyYW4EY2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwMxBHBvcwMxBHNlYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcmllcwRzbGsDdXNvZmZpY2lhbHNp

and you get

http://tinyurl.com/y2xdakh

That way you don't make the margin's of the forum...er.....fat

Peace

Karl

Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Apr 20, 2010 - 12:57am PT
Israel observes the somewhat troubled 62nd anniversary of its founding:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/20/world/middleeast/20israel.html?ref=world
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 20, 2010 - 05:15pm PT
Even Marco Polo ran into the "clash"

http://www.victorhanson.com/articles/ibrahim042010.html
Douglas Rhiner

Mountain climber
Good question?!?!?!?!?
Apr 20, 2010 - 05:59pm PT
"Hanson has argued that the US should take a much more confrontational stance towards Iran, advocating unilateral acts of war against that country. On the Hugh Hewitt show in August 2007, Hanson stated: "We really need to start doing some things beyond talking, and if that is going into Iranian airspace, or buzzing Iranians, or even starting to forget where the border is and taking out some of these training camps, we need to do that and send a message, because they’re a paper tiger. They really are."

Seems Mr. Hanson has has allot in-common with Al-Qaeda.....
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 20, 2010 - 06:51pm PT
To put that in context that was at the height of the Iranian incursions into Iraq. Iranian EFPs were killing dozens of Americans and Iraqis. There were a considerable number of Iranian agents killed and captured during that time frame.

Your comparison to AQ is frankly idiotic and you didn't even check to see who wrote the article, (Raymond Ibrahim).

Go see what other quotes you can pull out of context.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Apr 23, 2010 - 06:10pm PT
South Park payback is a beeotch!!!

http://rantburg.com/poparticle.php?ID=295233&D=2010-04-23&SO=&HC=2

bwahaahaahah!
ahad aham

Trad climber
Apr 23, 2010 - 06:20pm PT
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/middle_east/8631860.stm
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Apr 29, 2010 - 05:20pm PT
So, did you hear about the Egyptians gassing some Palestinians in a border tunnel??
http://rantburg.com/poparticle.php?ID=295593&D=2010-04-28&SO=&HC=1
Hardcore! Where's the Int'l outrage!!!

(oh, wait, the Jews didn't do it....)
Douglas Rhiner

Mountain climber
Good question?!?!?!?!?
Apr 29, 2010 - 06:09pm PT
Bluering,

I find it interesting that you are starting to believe the Palestinians....

Egypt denies gassing Gaza tunnels
lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
May 4, 2010 - 03:17pm PT
Fattrad.

"Thought I would start a new thread as military action against Iran is imminent. Let's see if President Obama has any courage and participates against the rogue nation. Look for Hezbollah to begin an offensive against Israel first as a distraction."

Seems you have gone off track on your clash. You have too many going in every direction and since you are off the subject I will do the same and ask you this:

“BP said Monday it would compensate people for "legitimate and objectively verifiable" claims from the explosion and spill, but President Barack Obama and others pressed the company to explain exactly what that means”

Since you have RIG stocks ask your buddy Cheney exactly what does it mean
and tell us? Please, enlighten us on the subject.

And as an additional note:

Who's to blame for the oil spill? Dick Cheney
BY ALEX PAREENE


The Gulf of Mexico oil spill could end up being the worst American man-made environmental catastrophe of this generation. With the oil still spilling and investigations into the causes yet to come, it's too early to neatly assign blame to any one person. But for now, let's hold Dick Cheney personally responsible for the whole thing.

Here's the evidence: The Wall Street Journal reports that the oil well didn't have a remote-control shut-off switch. The reason it didn't have a thing that it seems every single offshore drilling rig should have?

According to environmental lawyer Mike Papantonio, it's because Dick Cheney's energy task force decided that the $500,000 switches were too expensive, and they didn't want to make BP buy any.

Is that not enough reason to blame the former Dark Lord of the Naval Observatory? Guess what: Halliburton is involved, too! The Los Angeles Times reports that BP contracted Dick Cheney's old company to cement the deepwater drill hole. Cementing the hole was, according to the U.S. Minerals Management Service, "the single most-important factor in 18 of 39 well blowouts in the Gulf of Mexico over a 14-year period." And Hallburton is already under investigation for faulty cementing in an Australian well last year.

The spill will very likely destroy the fragile economies of at least five states and it could even plunge the nation back into a recession. So thanks, Dick. Nice work.

Source: www.salon.com Monday 03 April 2010

Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
May 4, 2010 - 04:21pm PT
Obama Renews Syria Sanctions
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/04/world/middleeast/04syria.html?scp=1&sq=obama%20syria&st=cse
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
May 6, 2010 - 10:49am PT
a perfect example of why we're losing this clash:

http://livefeed.hollywoodreporter.com/2010/05/comedy-central-developing-jesus-christ-cartoon-series.html


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