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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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Jun 20, 2008 - 02:18am PT
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"We are damn close to finishing this thing, if we ain't there yet!"
uhhhhh-
what are you talking about?
WE AREN'T EVEN WINNING IN AFGANISTAN!!
(did you hear where they busted 400+/- taliban from prison a few days ago? sweet...)
all you got in iraq are several divergent groups biding time and jockeying for position, there has been ZERO political progress, and iran won the war.
the only way iraq will ever be stable is when we leave and another leader as brutal as SH comes to power there. not that i look fwd to it, but there is just no interest in reconciliation on the part of the many factions in iraq.
"damn close to finishing the job"...?
i am almost afraid to ask, but, according to whom?
(seriously)
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Jun 20, 2008 - 02:51am PT
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DaftRat posted
"You're in complete denial, the western powers were replacing royal relatives to their pleasing in Morroco. Nice try at rebuttal, but you lose".
Kindly prove it or stuff it.
Nothing in your link proves it so it is up to you.
Just like the lies about Israel that you constantly purport to be truth try to prove it.
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Doug Buchanan
Mountain climber
Fairbanks Alaska
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Jun 20, 2008 - 04:46pm PT
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Blue Ring of the almost finished war......
Study the history of wars.
The wars started by the US are finished when the US is thrown back out of where it invaded. In Iraq and Afghanistan the US military defeated the Iraq and Afghan militaries. Then the Iraqis and Afghans started the current counter attack which will result in the US being handed its ass on the way across the nearest border, on schedule. That is when those wars will end.
You, Bush, McCain and Obama would have it no other way if you were Afghan or Iraqi. Is that not correct? Or is that a question you will flee rather than answer, and thus sustain your current embarrassing perception of some sort of superiority over those other guys in their own country?
Enjoy the show.
Doug
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jun 20, 2008 - 04:57pm PT
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Yep those rag heads are just kicking the crap out of the Afghani govt. and us.
June 19, 2008: Afghan and NATO forces killed or wounded several hundred Taliban who had come together south of Kandahar, and tried to take over seven villages. As usual, an examination of the dead, and interrogation of prisoners, showed that most of the gunmen were from Pakistan, recruited from Pushtun tribes, and religious schools for boys. Not exactly a great source of skilled warriors. Give them an AK-47, a few days training, a pep talk by a preacher and send them across the border. If they don't come back, and many don't, declare them martyrs for the cause.
In the south, another Taliban suicide bomber failed. The explosion, near a NATO convoy (apparently the intended target) killed ten civilians, and wounded many more. This makes the Taliban, and their al Qaeda allies, even less popular. The Taliban made did little for their public image by planting landmines around villages they briefly occupied south of Kandahar. The millions of mines the Russians left behind in the 1980s are still being cleared, and continue to kill and wound people.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jun 20, 2008 - 05:00pm PT
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"Yep those rag heads"
Typical racist garbage spewed from an idiot.
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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Jun 20, 2008 - 06:06pm PT
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judy- i'm sure it's all the fault of the democrats in congress
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jun 20, 2008 - 06:12pm PT
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Sorry, ragheads is both impolitic and incorrect.
You see they aren't rags at all they wear but little carefully folded sheets.
That makes them;
Little sheetheads
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Jun 20, 2008 - 06:22pm PT
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Just like Nam TGT, it doesn't matter if we kill 10,000 for every 100 they kill of us, they are fighting for "home" and we aren't. It's that simple, the guys fighting for their home will fight on and on.
Peace
Karl
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jun 20, 2008 - 06:54pm PT
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Checkk your reading comprehension.
Most of them are Pakis, not Afghani. Karzai is ready to chase them clear into Pakistan.
June 15, 2008: Afghan president Hamid Karzai caused a major diplomatic incident when he threatened to send his troops across the border to kill or capture Pakistani Taliban warlord Baitullah Mehsud. The Pakistanis have failed to bring Mehsud under control, even though Mehsud took credit for assassinating former premier (and recent presidential candidate) Benazir Bhutto. While Pakistani officials denounced the threat, many Pakistanis secretly wish Karzai would take down Mehsud. Both men are the leaders of powerful Pushtun tribes, and the majority of Pakistanis (who are not Pushtun) wish the tribes would just police themselves and cut out the violence. Pushtun unrest has been a problem in the region for thousands of years, and the non-tribal majority never gets used to it. Karzai's threat was particularly popular among businessmen across the border, where Taliban violence (in what is basically a battle for control of tribal governments by religious extremists) has ruined commerce. This affects everyone, with truck traffic disrupted and many shortages angering lots of people.
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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Jun 20, 2008 - 07:01pm PT
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yeah keep eating that spoonfed propaganda pal-
karazi is all but impotent in afganistan-
he's the last thing on the minds of the pakis, that's a joke.
edit-
TGT you are such a tool!
i love how you post some blurb about a single suicide bomber and ignore the huge news that the taliban just freed a few hundred of their pals by destroying a f*#king prison! HELLO!
makes sense though, as ignorance (which you regularly exhibit) is known to be the foundation for bigotry (which you also regularly exhibit).
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monolith
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Jun 20, 2008 - 07:02pm PT
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It was also the Dems fault the price of oil tripled while Bush and the Republicans had complete control.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jun 20, 2008 - 07:08pm PT
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"Sorry, ragheads is both impolitic and incorrect"
David Duke would approve. Great company you keep.
I guess you consider our friends over there to be ragheads too. Same/similar culture, same religion.
Whatever. You're an as#@&%e.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jun 20, 2008 - 07:12pm PT
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Dirtbag,
You are a little testy for a straight man.
I knew it would only be a matter of seconds for a fish to rise to the bait.
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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Jun 20, 2008 - 07:18pm PT
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LOL
i can see the 'onion' headline:
"oil prices spike as demand for lube skyrockets; officials confide that the availability of area man's newly reconstructed anus has impacted the stock market"
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dirtbag
climber
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Jun 20, 2008 - 07:20pm PT
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TGT, just don't pretend like you actually care about the people living over there. We know better.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jun 20, 2008 - 07:21pm PT
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You have a frog in your pocket?
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
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Jun 20, 2008 - 07:28pm PT
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Please give me one example of where one country invades another and the result is a long period of peace and prosperity.
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WoodySt
Trad climber
Riverside
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Jun 20, 2008 - 07:40pm PT
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Okay, Germany you historical ignoramus. I'll throw in Japan too. Japan was invaded upon surrender to keep from being ultimately overrun so one could quibble about the term invasion; however, it was smashed from the air.
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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Jun 20, 2008 - 07:45pm PT
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^^^
i'm pretty sure that's what jesus would suggest as well
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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Jun 20, 2008 - 07:52pm PT
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so jesus would advocate slaughtering them until they were all gone, rather than loving them?
love to se the scripture you'd quote to support that point of view!
jesus
gandhi ... VS ... jody
MLK
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