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Norton
Social climber
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I'm with you, Fructose!
I donate, debate, and participate.
Sometimes we are the not so silent majority.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Just because I don't agree with the Muslim ideology doesn't mean I have to attack it.
I am for all the reform the religious people can handle, it's not my problem they don't want to be reformed
And you can substitute Christianity in for Muslin on the above
They are all right wingers, these fundamentalist Muslim and Christians, that's the core of the problem, they like being anti-justice. They want to control other people, God told them so.
Liberalism is the only antidote for Right Wing Authoritarianism
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Norton, thank you. I'm glad you get it.
Craig, that is such a shallow if not idiotic response.
Educate yourself on the plight of liberal and ex muslims around the world. Be a global liberal, a universal liberal, not just a local (what, southern Ca?) liberal.
Get in the game. So speak up.
I'm not hearing a HUGE subset of liberals on the left defending ex-muslims, liberal muslims, reform muslims in the face of their religion's iron-age fundamentalism and superstition that plagues middle east cultures. Why?
These 21st century Muslims need liberal support from everywhere and everyone that truly cares about progressive, scientific, liberal thought. This called out subset of liberal needs to quit sipping their lattes, get off their asses, care enough about progressives abroad (in some places, getting machete'd to death) and get in the game.
Like it or not we are a globalization now when it comes to ideas, war on ideas, security, etc...
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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What's the plan fruity?
bomb them into submission?
Because all your talk has no impact on what's going to happen to them
They have to do the change needed on their own
There is nothing we can do that they would see as being in their best interest
except getting rid of the right wing controlling Governments that condones the injustice
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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"What's the plan fruity? ... bomb them into submission?"
Now you sound like Largo, congrats.
Wake up, smell the coffee. Change is everywhere.
I just don't see it expressed on this thread. and I
didn't see it expressed by libs (in partic by
this lib "subset") in the last election either.
Who ran the anti-fundamentalist Islam plank and made it
their own in the last election? Fox News and Trump.
You can't remember the past, you are condemned to repeat it
Ruminate on that, Craig.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Now you sound like Werner
just a bunch of insults
why not just call me stoopid to top it off
This is your obsession, not mine
I have other fish to fry, Like election Fraud
Don't you think that it's more important to win elections?
well we can't because we are being screwed by voter suppression
Fruity
you so easily slip into as#@&%e mode
That shoe fits
if you want to insult someone, find a Trump voter
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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You saw the Harris Affleck video, I am sure.
Be honest, you sided with Batman didn't you, Craig?
Well it is a fact that people can be not only biased but
also ignorant if not stupid when it comes to religions re their
role in culture and politics.
If the shoe fits, eh?
Don't you think that it's more important to win elections?
What do you think has me going on about this morning, silly?
Thanks to a poor campaign by a divided left, who do we now have for Pres and Sec of Education?
DONALD AND BETSY!
And who are we going to have soon for Sec of Energy. An equal embarrassment, no? Ask Ed H what he thinks about this.
It's disgusting.
I say again, Craig: Get in the game. Take up the liberal Muslim cause just as you have done for liberal Christians against the fundamentalists. Start with a GOOD and DEEP REVIEW OF YOUR PLAYBOOK. It could stand some improvement, imo.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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You're a stooge. When are you going to learn it is not just one or two factors that need our liberal attention. There are easily a dozen factors in this polynomial that gave the Orange Buffoon and his cronies the presidency.
Tell me, are you thinking things out any differently now in Feb than you did in Sept and Oct? Sad.
re: mood
Go read a short bio on Betsy and if that doesn't change YOUR mood then something is wrong somewhere.
btw, I didn't call YOU shallow, ignorant, whatever, I called your analysis that. Precision counts.
Stooge fits, though. :) (After YOUR use of a vulgarity.)
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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You're insane dude
Get off my back
I know all of this already
I was screaming all of this for months before the election
Vote Hillary are we Get Trump!!! simple as that
Vote against the lies, vote against the corruption of the Republicans
They voted for Trump because of the Media bias, not left wing tactics
It was the media that gave this election to Trump, not liberal reform for Muslims
Now you come on board and tell me I don't have game
I'm way deeper in this than you
you're just a noob when it comes to America Politics
or may I just call you a stooge
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Norton
Social climber
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I am really tired of the reactionary and frankly shallow intellect behind the constant conclusion that because a US President or Sec of State will not say "Radical Islam" that it follows that they are "weak" or in league with Islamic Terror.
What many, most? people don't understand is that the religion of Islam has some 1.6 billion followers who do not commit terror, that by far most of the terror done by radical Islamists is being done to their fellow Muslims, and most importantly when Muslim country leaders hear the words Radical Islam they interpret it to mean ALL of Islam are bloodthirsty terrorists.
It is deeply insulting to the very people that we depend on for our bases abroad, the same bases we use to kill, gasp, Muslim we consider "radical"
George W Bush got it, Obama got it, Donald Trump has the intellect of a ten year old and so does not get it and our foreign policy relationships are already in peril because of him.
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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I heard Trump predicted Pats by 8. In fact it was 6. This is typical Trump exaggeration. Where's the outrage?
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kief
Trad climber
east side
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Go read a short bio on Betsy and if that doesn't change YOUR mood then something is wrong somewhere.
So you don't think we need guns in schools to fend off grizzly attacks?
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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I heard Trump predicted Pats by 8. In fact it was 6. This is typical Trump exaggeration. Where's the outrage?
In Trump's opinion, the Pats did win by 8.
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