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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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May 23, 2012 - 11:58am PT
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This time lapse of the hordes on summit day is pretty mind-boggling.
Holy schit! Was that really a black line of ants all jammed up like that?
I didn't imagine it being that congested.
F*#k that schit. So speaketh survival.................
Thats the shyt thats making a MOCKERY of it all.And the very reason so many fools are dying up there now...
The mockery was there long before that woman got dressed down on the "sacred" mountain Ron.
It became un-sacred the minute guides started taking high paying n00bs up there.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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May 23, 2012 - 12:00pm PT
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F*#k that schit. So speaketh survival.................
So agreeth philo.
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
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May 23, 2012 - 12:01pm PT
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Ueli looks afraid of her in that photo. Or at least weary of her.
Reinhold doesn't even seem to realize someone is next to him when someone said "smile" when taking the pic.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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May 23, 2012 - 12:08pm PT
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Lets see, Uli had just got down from an NO O2 ascent of Everest. Give the guy a break.
And trust me Reinhold was very aware of who was there with him.
Haters gotta hate.
I am somewhat stunned that unqualified clients are dying up there for no good reason but some folks are more incensed by lucite heels.
Oh well. She is really a very nice person.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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May 23, 2012 - 12:19pm PT
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No hate. Just curiosity.
I wonder how many lap dances it takes to get up Everest.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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May 23, 2012 - 12:20pm PT
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She may be a nice person but near nudity anywhere in Nepal is a cultural
abomination. As for corporate sponsers on banners, it's actually not that far
from the prayer flags of local tradition. Some people are sponsered by Buddhas
and Boddhisattvas and mountain goddesses and others by Microsoft and Starbucks.
Both the diva and the banners display our values, but only the barely dressed
woman offends the locals.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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May 23, 2012 - 12:21pm PT
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Why do you ask Ron are you contemplating a career change prior to going to Everest. :) LOL
Jan, believe me I understand and respect what you are saying. But it seems too easy to slag on unknown folks.
By the way she has a great many Sherpa friends who like and care about her.
These pics are from base camp a few years ago. Once actually on a mountain she stows the leather teddies and lucite heels and is very respectful.
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
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May 23, 2012 - 12:24pm PT
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Philo, "Haters gonna hate" isn't an excuse. She looks like a Russian whore. Not a serious climber.
Guarantee if I asked Ueli about this woman he'd be "Oh, another fan." but even more polite cause he's Swiss.
I want to see the person you talk so highly of but she's not making it easy. It's like OR with photo bombs.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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May 23, 2012 - 12:25pm PT
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No high altitude ambitions, philo.
I look at that conga line with disbelief.
But I figure she had to work pretty hard. Maybe a better training program than Mr. 7 miler.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
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May 23, 2012 - 12:40pm PT
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Wild guess, but I bet every time there is a hot day in base camp there are all sorts of shirtless men, euro banana hammocks and other culturally offensive nekedness.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - May 23, 2012 - 12:40pm PT
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Folks, I know I used the word "morally" in the thread title but this particular thread drift is not what I had in mind.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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May 23, 2012 - 12:41pm PT
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You can be sure Philo, that I will ask the Sherpas what they think about her
the next time I interview in Nepal. Whatever their opinions, it should definitely
be an interesting topic! I'll bet their wives have heard of her too!
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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May 23, 2012 - 12:45pm PT
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Flouride, Susan and Jan, don't get me wrong, I am not knocking any of you or your concerns about the apparent impropriety. I like and respect you all. I am just bummed how harsh of a slagging Jona is getting. She really doesn't deserve it. No one will die because of her lucite heels. No one will be stranded or abandoned because of her photo shoots.To my mind the real evil is unscrupulous guide services who rake in 60+ grand from unqualified clients who later endanger many others by their incompetence. I could easily see being outraged and offended if she posed like that on the summit but that ain't gonna happen. Jona befriended me when I really needed a friend. It is hard to see her shat upon for her art project. If Nat Geo is on board she must be doing something right.
Tami, I do understand. By the way your Cartoon in the last ALPINIST is one of the best ever. Much respect lady you rock!
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
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May 23, 2012 - 12:46pm PT
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Jim, an estimated 200 climbers are going for the summit this weekend with a good weather window. That's just insane.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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May 23, 2012 - 12:47pm PT
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Pretty soon there will be 2 lanes.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - May 23, 2012 - 12:49pm PT
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Indeed it is, I'm leaving for the Black Canyon in a few hours. Great climbing, if a little knarly, which is why crowds won't be a problem
Are those air traffic control guys Reagan fired still looking for work?
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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May 23, 2012 - 12:50pm PT
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Wild guess, but I bet every time there is a hot day in base camp there are all sorts of shirtless men, euro banana hammocks and other culturally offensive nekedness.
Exactly is there not a ethical dilemma here?
And Jan i would so love to hear the opinions of the Sherpas.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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May 23, 2012 - 12:51pm PT
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Donini, I guess you never had Jimmy N tossing cherry bombs down while you were in there,..
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
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May 23, 2012 - 12:53pm PT
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If Nat Geo is on board she must be doing something right."
So does "Survivor" and any other reality shows. I have some great ideas I want to pitch but it doesn't mean they're right.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - May 23, 2012 - 12:53pm PT
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No...and he better not start now. Ron...send me some bear sausage.
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