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Captain...or Skully
climber
or some such
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A seal isn't a fish? But it's STILL a Squid!
Sorry, I'm with MLK & Bob on this. No hate. Hate is for lesser creatures.
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shut up and pull
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LAUGHING. SO. HARD. MUST. CATCH. BREATH.
In early 2004, Howard Dean — who was then leading the Democratic presidential field and would go on to become chairman of the Democratic National Committee — explained that he could not judge what should befall bin Laden because the terror master had not yet had a fair trial and been convicted by a jury. Those in “positions of executive power,” he declaimed, should not “prejudge jury trials.”
OBAMA NOW: Obama: U.S. Carried Out Operation 'At My Direction'...
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shut up and pull
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THE. LAUGHTER. JUST. WON'T. STOP.
Immediately after 9/11, when Democrats had been anxious to prove they could be just as tough on terrorists as Bush, Eric Holder had admonished a CNN host that “we are in the middle of a war,” and thus that captured terrorists should be detained without trial as “combatants” — in addition to being denied Geneva Convention rights so that “we . . . have an opportunity to interrogate them and find out what their future plans might be, where other cells are located.” But by 2008, while serving as a senior adviser to the Obama campaign, Holder was bemoaning Bush’s failure to treat captured terrorists “in accordance with the Geneva Conventions,” and condemning Bush counterterrorism as a green light for “torture” and a betrayal of the “rule of law.”
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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The full tilt meltdown of SUAP is almost as cool as Bin Laden getting chopped. Almost.
Justice was death penalty. Crime was confessed to loudly. I'd say he was brought to justice, and unlike McCain who said during the election tjat he would never go after Bin Laden in Pakistan without their approval, Obama said he'd wack him with or without their approval.
Don't do anything rash SUAP, after the denial and the anger pass, you can move on to the other stages of grief: bargaining "well, it was REALLY Bush who got him because...", then acceptance "yes, the black President intimidates me and makes me question my manhood, but I guess he did good on this one". LMFAO.
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landcruiserbob
Trad climber
BIG ISLAND or Vail ; just following the sun.......
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This is about warriors doing their job plain & simple. Those guys would do their job for free; born killers. They were breed to do it. War & death are normal, poltics & religion just give them a reason.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Swimming in LEB tears.
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Obama should have walked up to the podium and said "Here's my birth certificate, bitch" and then pulled OBL's head out of a bag and dropped it on the floor. Then he shoulda pimp stepped out of there tossing a peace sign.
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Port
Trad climber
San Diego
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The Repugs just don't think at all. The Repugs worship at the feet of their masters no matter what, and swallow hook, line, and sinker and enjoy it and then they want more of the same. They will vote against their own self-interest time and time again.
A shallow and misinformed understanding of republican politics.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Personally, I believe a trial would have been preferable to Usama's assassination, but the Right would bitch either way.
I don't give a crap what you "believe" but I would like to know what is accordance with THE LAW!
Last time I checked, when you go around KILLING people, that is murder (unless it is pursuant to a valid court order).
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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They were able to fairly try the Nazis after World War II, in the full glare of the public. Including some big fish - Hermann Goering and company were in a different league entirely from bin Laden. Somewhat victor's justice, but it was a precedent.
The big difference being that bin Laden and al Qaeda are simply ideologically-motivated mass murderers, and didn't act for a state. It might have been a stretch to argue that they met the international legal definition of war criminals. A trial might have been embarrassing, a soapbox, and perhaps revealed some secrets, but was feasible. But it is difficult to argue that it was unjust that he was shot while resisting arrest.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Swimming in LEB tears.
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fatty said [Pakistan] often supports the Taliban.
Fixed that for ya
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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I wonder if the body is actually in a container full of formaldehyde, with a transponder, in a known location in the ocean, maybe with fairly shallow water? Just in case, as it were. (But tied to a big rock.)
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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I would wager ten to one that however many people were in that compound is the number that were killed. The SEALS weren't there to take prisoners. Two to the head and one to the chest, "Just to make sure he was dead." Harsh, but that's the reality with Black Ops.
JL
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Captain...or Skully
climber
or some such
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I'd have mulched him. It's a shame to waste good mulch.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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BES1'st is NOT from the USA.
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Port
Trad climber
San Diego
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Hey Klimmer,
I was in DC, across the river from the Pentagon. I saw the plane hit. I made it back to my office near the Capitol, sent everyone home (there were rumors of another plane targeting the Capitol - turned out to be flight 93), and walked the 5 miles home to my girlfriend, who'd moved to DC two days before.
Looks like we have an eyewitness to the attack at the pentagon on supertopo. Ready to admit you're wrong?
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1485177&tn=20
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Gene
climber
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BES1'st is NOT from the USA.
BES1'st is the USA.
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Obama should have walked up to the podium and said "Here's my birth certificate, bitch" and then pulled OBL's head out of a bag and dropped it on the floor. Then he shoulda pimp stepped out of there tossing a peace sign.
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