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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Jul 12, 2016 - 11:57am PT
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To change the subject slightly, the following appeared in today's "Notable & Quotable" column on the Wall Street Journal's Opinion pages:
"From remarks by Gary Johnson and William Weld, the Libertarian Party cadidates for president and vice president, during an interview at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., on July 7 with Thomas Burr, the club's president:
Thomas Burr: So following on that, Governor, 10 percent doesn't get you elected president. So do you worry about being perceived as a spoiler to the major party candidates such as Ross Perot in '92 or Ralph Nader in 2000?
Gary Johnson: I will lose no sleep if that is the label given to me, and I will reiterate; this is a party that needs crashing.
William Weld: What's to spoil?
Mr. Johnson: What's to spoil? (Applause) . . .
Mr. Burr: Governor Johnson, we've had several questions submitted about this, so I'm just going to ask it. When was the last time you smoked or ingested marijuana?
Mr. Johnson: I did this about two months ago, it's been about two months. And when you tell the truth, really, you don't have anything to fear. I've always maintained that you should not be on the job impaired. Well, as of two months ago, really this is a 24/7 job running for president of the United States. And as president of the United States, that also is a 24/7 job. So in my lifetime, I think I have more than demonstrated my ability to be self disciplined. I haven't had a drink of alcohol in 29 years. I wasn't an alcoholic, it had everything to do with rock climbing and the immediacy of rock climbing and being the best you could possibly be. But this is the truth component that I think is really also lacking in politics.
Who would know that I ingested marijuana products two months ago? My best friends and if I'd have said, 'Hey, I don't use it, or I haven't used them,' my best friends would consider me a hypocrite. And I think hypocrisy is the one unforgivable in life. Doing one thing and saying another. (Applause)
Mr. Burr: Just to clarify, are you saying that if elected president, you would not ingest or smoke marijuana as president?
Mr. Johnson: That is correct, yes."
[Emphasis supplied.]
I wish we could elicit that level of candor from all the candidates.
John
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Jul 12, 2016 - 11:58am PT
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Careful Escopeta.
Klimmer is gone.
The Dallas Shooting thread got shut down... possibly over language as harsh as "black thugs".
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Norton
Social climber
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Jul 12, 2016 - 12:07pm PT
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Donald Trump Said Hillary Clinton Would ‘Make a Good President’ in 2008
Donald Trump is attacking Hillary Clinton these days, but eight years ago, in the midst of the 2008 Democratic primary race, he said she would “make a good president” and a lot of people thought pairing her with Barack Obama would be a “dream ticket.”
His kind words for Mrs. Clinton came in a previously unreported clip from “Trumped!,” a syndicated radio feature that aired from 2004 to 2008 and consisted of a daily commentary of about 60 seconds from the real-estate mogul.
http://www.wsj.com/article_email/donald-trump-said-hillary-clinton-would-make-a-good-president-in-2008-1468281714-lMyQjAxMTI2NzEyMjQxMzI3Wj
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jul 12, 2016 - 12:09pm PT
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I don't care where you exist, its bad form to whine to internet moderators. Sissy pants
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Jul 12, 2016 - 12:11pm PT
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I don't care where you exist, its bad form to whine to internet moderators. Sissy pants
Yeah, if harmless Intertard bantering gets your panties all bunched up, turn off the computer.
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WBraun
climber
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Jul 12, 2016 - 12:16pm PT
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This thread should be LOCKED too .....
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jul 12, 2016 - 12:23pm PT
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^^^^ You should be locked. You lie and when you admit to all of us that you've been lying you will have to apologize for all the lies that you and your party have made. Lol
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Norton
Social climber
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Jul 12, 2016 - 12:42pm PT
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it could not be simpler could it, Craig
don't like that people are posting to a thread you don't like? then don't click or reply to it
grease monkey works very well too, don't have to read any particular person's posts
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WBraun
climber
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Jul 12, 2016 - 12:46pm PT
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You don't get it at all ever!
Admin does not like these threads!
They are locking them because they feel they are inappropriate for this forum .......
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Jul 12, 2016 - 01:36pm PT
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Thanks, Edwart T. That is funny.
John
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Jul 12, 2016 - 02:29pm PT
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A majority of Republicans think Trump is well qualified to be President
and will actually make America Great again
I'm not so sure about that. Trump has a very strong core of support which was around 30%~45% of Republican primary voters. I don't think a majority of Republicans are happy with Trump. Trump's negatives are off the chart even among Republicans.
Now a majority of Republicans probably think Trump is the lessor evil vis a vis Hillary.
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Norton
Social climber
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Jul 12, 2016 - 02:35pm PT
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well guys....
better say all those complicated political things pretty quick
because the admins are gonna nuke this thread like they did the Donald and Hillary ones
any time now, wait for IT
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 12, 2016 - 02:40pm PT
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Werner posted You don't get it at all ever!
Admin does not like these threads!
They are locking them because they feel they are inappropriate for this forum .......
YOU don't get it, Werner. They don't like that people get all personal and call each other stupid which is roughly 95% of your contribution to political threads.
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Jul 12, 2016 - 07:20pm PT
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Holy cow. I agree with most of a Jonah Goldberg column. Will wonders never cease! This, for example:
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (who did not lose his lazy certainty) spent the weekend attacking the Black Lives Matter movement as “racist.” He wants people to focus on the fact that most black murder victims die at the hands of other blacks. That’s true, and tragic, and fairly irrelevant.
Conservatives, of all people, should understand that misdeeds committed by agents of the state are categorically different from the same acts committed by normal citizens. A father who slaps his son for no good reason, however wrong that may be, is very different from a cop who slaps a citizen for no good reason. http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-goldberg-dallas-conservative-black-lives-matter-20160711-snap-story.html
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