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couchmaster
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^^bullshit (for me) Jody^^ we had a local woman (black girl) jump from the back seat to the front seat and try driving away from a local officer during a stop and she got no sympathy from me when she was shot for being stupid. None. It was 2am and the officer was alone. She's dead and I'm grateful that the cop did the right thing. Sucks that she died but the 2 other guys (who had been in the front seat) had gotten out per officers request and are alive today.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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double bullshit Jody.
I don't believe in taking over wildlife refuges with guns, no matter what color they are.
As a cop, you shouldn't be into it either.
Maybe Jody would've given Finnicum a medal for climbing out of that truck and not following officers instructions.
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John M
climber
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unarmed Jody.. unarmed. Whether black or white. the guy who was shot was armed and had said many times that he would not allow himself to be taken. i.e. arrested.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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for the remaining people who chose to plead not guilty in the Oregon bird watching/winter camping thing.
Let's be honest. It was more like Glamping since they had a cabin......and snacks.
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John M
climber
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the problem you have Jody is that you lump everyone together. I don't defend black people who are armed and don't follow lawful orders by the police.
But I do object to some of the instances where a police officer has shot an unarmed man.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jody hears what he wants to hear. He has a great eye, though.
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couchmaster
climber
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"the problem you have Jody is that you lump everyone together."
I'm with John M there, please find anything I've ever even hinted along those lines Jody. Regarding this quote from Jody: "If the occupier who was shot and killed was black it would be a whole different story, wouldn't it? You guys would be on the side of the occupiers post haste. "
"You guys?" Find it.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Finicum actually had a black mother and was a thug who lived on welfare and deserved to be shot, if not hung.
But Finicum left a big clue as reported by the NY Times Today, “I’m not going to end up in prison,” said Mr. Finicum, 54, who often appeared at news conferences wearing a broad cowboy hat on his head and a sidearm on his hip. “I would rather die than be caged. And I’ve lived a good life.”
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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I felt bad for Finicum as he seemed like a good guy with good intentions but just got himself involved in this hopeless thing.
When he swerved around the blockade to the left into the deep snow, he effectively ran over a cop/fed who had unfortunately chosen to dive into the wrong snowbank when he saw the collision was imminent.
So tensions were likely off the charts high when Finicum burst out of the truck, albeit with his hands over his head. They shot at him immediately which ain't right but keep in mind the confusion and fear with who was in that truck when they saw the door flung open.
Bad day with poor choices on all sides, but not murder IMO.
And as far as the group having a large contingent of state and federal employees, that's always the case. The best way to meet local federal agents anywhere is to join a local "militia".
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Don't forget the FBI agents that were sending in pills indiscriminately and then tried to play it off.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Yeah!
I'm with Survival & the sane folks on this thread.
Finnicum wanted to shoot it out with the cops.
Survival:double bullshit Jody.
I don't believe in taking over wildlife refuges with guns, no matter what color they are.
As a cop, you shouldn't be into it either.
Maybe Jody would've given Finnicum a medal for climbing out of that truck and not following officers instructions.
From Finnicum's published online novel:
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