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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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He just took Nevada.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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I would love to see Bernie flog Escopeta.
It would be a far sight more entertaining than watching a modern political debate.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Escopeta just took Idaho...!
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Roughster
Sport climber
Vacaville, CA
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How can we give the idiot Trump, psycho Cruz, or Goldmans Clinton more attention than someone who is actually inspirational and working for all of the American people? I dare you to watch this video and not feel something resonating within you. Don't let the label of "socialist" be a reason you dismiss Sanders. He is the only president that will actually work for you if elected.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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MisterE
Gym climber
Small Town with a Big Back Yard
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^^What's not to like about that!
Nice post Roughster.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Rock on brother Roughster
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Don't let the label of "socialist" be a reason you dismiss Sanders.
Can we let the fact that he IS a socialist be the reason we dismiss him?
Bernie Sanders as President would do nothing but confirm that the beacon of freedom and individual liberty, the United States, is in fact - long gone. We will have arrived at the bottom of the slippery slope.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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I thought we reached the bottom under Bush..?
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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
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yup rottingjohny...this is the president who took us to the bottom of the slippery slope...
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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i saw this quote on the interwebs today... it is by douglas adams and from so long, and thanks for all of the fish:
“It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see..."
"You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?"
"No," said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."
"Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."
"I did," said Ford. "It is."
"So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't people get rid of the lizards?"
"It honestly doesn't occur to them," said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want."
"You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"
"Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course."
"But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"
"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in.”
it seems clear to me that bernie is the only one of the major candidates who, of those who vote for him, a majority are primarily voting for him, rather than merely casting a vote to make sure that the wrong lizard doesn't get in.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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tradster....that's him...how could i forget...?
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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
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Bernie Sanders as President would do nothing but confirm that the beacon of freedom and individual liberty, the United States, is in fact - long gone. We will have arrived at the bottom of the slippery slope.
What a crock of sh#t...Is that a Sarah Palin quote?
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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It's amazing the amount of vitriol that any talk of freedom and personal liberty invokes from the codependent socialists.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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A comedian said it. I believe it. That settles it.
Oh, and anybody who doesn't agree with me (and the comedian) is a racist, misogynistic, selfish idiot.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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I thought we reached the bottom under Bush..?
So did I. Apparently, since there is a considerable cross section of the country wiling to vote for a self-proclaimed socialist, we haven't hit bottom yet.
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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willbeer, that's it.
A comedian said it. I believe it. That settles it.
Oh, and anybody who doesn't agree with me (and the comedian) is a racist, misogynistic, selfish idiot.
Really brilliant rhetoric there. Kudos.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Really brilliant rhetoric there. Kudos.
Why thank you!
I'm just trying to keep up with the other similar brilliance on this thread.
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Degaine
climber
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Escopeta wrote
Can we let the fact that he IS a socialist be the reason we dismiss him?
What do you actually think being a socialist or socialism means? Government ownership of the means of production? Haven’t heard/read any statements that Bernie wants to nationalize several industries. Bernie is a New Deal Democrat pure and simple.
Do you just up and automatically dismiss points of view that don’t match your own?
Escopeta wrote:
Bernie Sanders as President would do nothing but confirm that the beacon of freedom and individual liberty, the United States, is in fact - long gone. We will have arrived at the bottom of the slippery slope.
Hyperbole much?
Do you have any evidence whatsoever to back that statement up? How about citing examples of policies Bernie would enact to take away individual liberties from Americans?
And where were you in 2001 when the Patriot Act was signed? And in 2005 when it was renewed? How about when Bush broke FISA laws?
I, Karl Baba, and several others who are left of center (relative to the political spectrum in the US today) heavily criticized the Patriot Act from the get go. No one in here who swings right said a peep until maybe 2009 or 2010.
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