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zBrown
Ice climber
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Oct 27, 2016 - 08:41pm PT
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What is a fed?
Were you there jah?
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Oct 27, 2016 - 08:45pm PT
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There was no militia present at the occupation
They were an armed militia by definition the minute the seized the wildlife refuge.
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couchmaster
climber
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Oct 27, 2016 - 08:48pm PT
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It came out in the trial that 15 of the "members" were affiliated with the government. I was laughing (robustly as it turned out) wondering out loud if there were more government agents than occupiers. "5. States can maintain their wild lands better than the Fed." I disagree with that, it seems to me that the states are much more open to bribery and manipulation. It's a pretty fair process to lease blm land or bid on a logging contract with the federal government. I doubt that all states could continue that fairness.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Oct 27, 2016 - 09:01pm PT
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Big deal. These half-wits get to go back to their trailer parks until they get arrested again doing something stupid.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Oct 27, 2016 - 09:06pm PT
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Freak out
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Oct 27, 2016 - 09:13pm PT
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Ammon Bundy's attorney, Marcus Mumford, was taken down by US Marshals who reportedly used a stun gun after the lawyer argued with the judge that his client should be set free.
Classic.
The Ten Gallon Tards waving their guns in the air and taking over the sanctuary were treated with kid gloves by the Feds.
Their attorney got mouthy and got tazed.
You can't make that sh#t up.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 27, 2016 - 09:14pm PT
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You're right, Cosmic...Jah Man ≠ Cosmic
He's way too articulate (if wrong) to be Cosmic.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Oct 27, 2016 - 09:15pm PT
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Jah man has a total of 6 posts on ST, 4 on this thread & 2 on the Election Fraud thread. All were posted yesterday or today.
Even we smoking ducks can spot ST Frauds!
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 27, 2016 - 09:21pm PT
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he was attempting to return poorly kept artifacts to the native americans just before he was gunned down.
and the Paiutes response to Tarpman . . . . ..GFYS
Yes the seditionists were so concerned about the native culture, hahaha
Lavoy Finicum died doing what he loved
acting the fool
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Oct 27, 2016 - 09:28pm PT
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Here is Lavoy Finicum at the compound days before his death, he was attempting to return poorly kept artifacts to the native americans just before he was gunned down...
Only an imbecile would believe that.
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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Oct 28, 2016 - 06:42am PT
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Perhaps those pipeline protesters in the Dakotas will now declare that they're a militia, too.
If there is any question of bias and racism from the top down, the last 24 hours is proof that:
If you are a white hillbilly, you can take over land at will
If you are native and protecting your land, the Feds will do everything in their power to protect precious oil
Inlcuding tasing, arresting, shooting horses, sound canons, etc.
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PAUL SOUZA
Trad climber
Central Valley, CA
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Oct 28, 2016 - 07:24am PT
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Ridiculous...
PORTLAND, Ore. — Armed antigovernment protesters led by Ammon and Ryan Bundy were acquitted Thursday of federal conspiracy and weapons charges stemming from the takeover of a federally owned wildlife sanctuary in Oregon last winter.
The surprise acquittals of all seven defendants in Federal District Court were a blow to government prosecutors, who had argued that the Bundys and five of their followers used force and threats of violence to occupy the reserve. But the jury appeared swayed by the defendants’ contention that they were protesting government overreach and posed no threat to the public.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/28/us/bundy-brothers-acquitted-in-takeover-of-oregon-wildlife-refuge.html
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Oct 28, 2016 - 07:27am PT
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Next time use them for target practice.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Oct 28, 2016 - 07:28am PT
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Patrick,
There is one very key difference between the Bundy Tards and the Pipeline Protesters, Occupy Idiots and such ilk.
You might not see it, but I promise you the JackBoots in the riot gear do.
Next time use them for target practice.
Why are liberals so violent? Lol
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Oct 28, 2016 - 08:37am PT
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I bet the 7 peeps that decided not to be tried at this time are, um, re-thinking that.
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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Oct 28, 2016 - 09:11am PT
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There is one very key difference between the Bundy Tards and the Pipeline Protesters, Occupy Idiots and such ilk.
You might not see it, but I promise you the JackBoots in the riot gear do.
would that difference be skin color?
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Oct 28, 2016 - 09:41am PT
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The difference is called out in your own meme you just posted.
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John M
climber
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Oct 28, 2016 - 09:49am PT
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I believe he is saying the difference between armed and not armed.
I wish that there wasn't so much misinformation about some of these situations.
Such as the pipeline protest. At this point the protest is happening on private property. What is the history of the property? Just because it was indian land 150 years ago doesn't mean its wrongfully owned now. Some indian land was sold by indians. So whats the real story? Instead, we get memes.
Protests on private property where the owner wants them off are different from protests happening on government land where the government can take its time with the situation.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Oct 28, 2016 - 09:57am PT
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There is one very key difference between the Bundy Tards and the Pipeline Protesters, Occupy Idiots and such ilk. I'm kind of curious as to your point as well. Please respond without referring to some other imaginary, prior response.
I have hard time with this given that I put a lot of faith in our justice system. Not that it's perfect, but it's the best we have and, if you accept the importance of the rule of law, you also have to accept that sometimes juries will do incomprehensible things. In my area of practice--probate and trust work--the legislature banned juries from hearing disputed matters because they consistently failed to apply the law, relying instead on their own sense of equity. I have a feeling something similar happened here. It's likely that the jury heard considerably more substantive evidence about the issue then we have, but it's hard not to find them guilty of a particular act that they admit they performed. It will be interesting to see what additional facts come out after the fact.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Oct 28, 2016 - 10:08am PT
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We don't know what went on at the trial for one thing. Maybe the prosecution just screwed up.
During the OJ trial I was working with a party chief who was obsessed with the trial. Anytime we were in the van or within earshot we had to listen to the trial. After all that, IMO, the jury came to the correct verdict. They could only act on the testimony given to them. Marcia Clark blew it.
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